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  1. #22376
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    Here's one for those who feel the Aspen house is a bit pricey: https://www.point2homes.com/CA/Home-...x=3&bsft_tv=26

    That pool doesn't suck.

    The austere staging makes it seem a bit cold and uninviting to me, though. Would not buy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastfred View Post
    a ski town of just core locals who get endless first tracks day after day with no lift lines and cheap passess where is this town?
    Big Sky pre-IKON.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The AD View Post
    Here's one for those who feel the Aspen house is a bit pricey: https://www.point2homes.com/CA/Home-...x=3&bsft_tv=26

    That pool doesn't suck.

    The austere staging makes it seem a bit cold and uninviting to me, though. Would not buy.
    Itís part staging, part photography. That very expensive modern furniture doesnít have to look lifeless, even if thats the choice

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    Quote Originally Posted by dunfree View Post
    Itís part staging, part photography. That very expensive modern furniture doesnít have to look lifeless, even if thats the choice
    Yeah, blank walls donít help either. No art in the place.

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    One would think the sheer unaffordability if all the cool places, and the nation in general, there will be some new cool places down the line.

    Little towns that grow, where are they?

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    Fun little place. Done a ton of skiing right up the road. Thru hiked npt 3x. The adk is the home range

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    RE in the adk is pretty expensive these days. https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2...ource=txtshare

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    That's a lot of land under the same ownership. A few giant Texas ranches have gone up for sale but the biggest I've read about was around 1/5 that size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m2711c View Post
    $100,000,000.00 and no ski racks or tuning room? fuckin' posers...



    and what the fuck is with that statue of a dude jerkin off?

    There is a dark "ski locker room" in there but no tuning room.

    A giant old cobbled together piece of crap built on a tailings pile. One of the first Aspen mega mansions, and it shows its age.

    ski in ski out is nice though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percy Rideout View Post
    There is a dark "ski locker room" in there but no tuning room.

    A giant old cobbled together piece of crap built on a tailings pile. One of the first Aspen mega mansions, and it shows its age.

    ski in ski out is nice though.
    Yeah, I'm not that into it. I'll be kind of surprised if they find a buyer at their asking price.

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    anyone looking for housing in Telluride? Unfortunately, the $12k/month rental price does not include utilities


    https://www.telluridenews.com/classi...27cecf3e9.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by byates1 View Post
    One would think the sheer unaffordability if all the cool places, and the nation in general, there will be some new cool places down the line.

    Little towns that grow, where are they?
    they are everywhere and I have a nice list going we can meet up someday and I"ll let you know the facts
    anything on the rei/outside magazine best fucking places for dipshits to live list gets runned over and ruined

    Quote Originally Posted by Mazderati View Post
    That's a lot of land under the same ownership. A few giant Texas ranches have gone up for sale but the biggest I've read about was around 1/5 that size.
    my ex is part owner of a 20k acre ranch in texas its just been part of the family for a few generations and she got stuck with a slice of it which she has never been to thrilled about meanwhile the family as a whole is one of the largest landowners in the country its alot to wrap your head around

    Quote Originally Posted by alpinevibes View Post
    Crash???

    https://www.compass.com/listing/730-...5728356242305/


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    45 million is fair price
    but ski in and ski out walk to downtown private large lot that shit doesn't grown on trees like suburbs do
    if aspen ever decides to let single family homes be built again (I thought breck was fucking up on their green building we care about the environment and the local worker shit and short term rental issues) but aspen is on a whole nother level of fucking stupidity I digress but you'd be able to squeeze one more house in on that acre of land or buldoze the dam thing and build a condo tower

    the gorsuch family takes the winning for that right now

    since aspen won't let people build homes anymore they just added a 40% surcharge to real estate prices gov't planning at it's best and since most of the town council in living in subsized gov't housing they don't really understand how the real world works

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    A couple weeks ago Snapt mentioned that hotel bookings in Teton Valley were down 75% compared to last year.

    It has been an eerily quiet summer so far. Campgrounds that were full all last summer and the year before are at 1/3 capacity. Trailheads and boat launches have plenty of parking, etc. I think middle class people from SLC and Pocatello and Idaho Falls aren't willing or able to splurge for summer family vacation 2022.

    Inventory is also way up, but asking prices are elevated still. Feels like something has to give.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percy Rideout View Post
    There is a dark "ski locker room" in there but no tuning room.

    A giant old cobbled together piece of crap built on a tailings pile. One of the first Aspen mega mansions, and it shows its age.

    ski in ski out is nice though.
    So, it's a fixer upper? What's the helipad situation in that area? Because if I'm dropping that kind of coin, I can't be hassled to deal with traffic from ASE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevo View Post
    A couple weeks ago Snapt mentioned that hotel bookings in Teton Valley were down 75% compared to last year.

    It has been an eerily quiet summer so far. Campgrounds that were full all last summer and the year before are at 1/3 capacity. Trailheads and boat launches have plenty of parking, etc. I think middle class people from SLC and Pocatello and Idaho Falls aren't willing or able to splurge for summer family vacation 2022.
    Well that's interesting. I figured everywhere would still be a total shitshow. Anyone else seeing something similar to Kevo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The AD View Post
    Well that's interesting. I figured everywhere would still be a total shitshow. Anyone else seeing something similar to Kevo?
    Nope. Still coming to Bend like it was 2019. And then some.
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    I have seen much busier 4th of Julys around here. Not dead, but not crazy either.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadman View Post
    Nope. Still coming to Bend like it was 2019. And then some.
    That doesn't surprise me. I was thinking about coming down for an open water swimming event at the end of the month and hotels are all at least $250/night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truckee Joe View Post
    I have seen much busier 4th of Julys around here. Not dead, but not crazy either.
    Same here in CO. People blamed the fireworks ban and lack of town fireworks. But I think that's bullshit. Gas prices, the weather, and the STR restrictions in every town up here have cause rates for STRs and hotel room to go through the roof.

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    the breckenridge co real estate state of estate

    touron numbers are down bookings are down
    breckenridge is still a 1st class zoo don't get me wrong wall to wall pasty white fat people
    the numbers are back to "normal" after 2020 & 2021 chaos, for most people normal is good, for the money grubbing locals normal is not good
    numbers are down because the "in crowd" is now back traveling to pachui pichu italia and other fab international spots
    gas prices the news cycle and inflation have more people staying home hiding under their blankets
    over all the scene is good winter bookings are being made

    number of houses on the market has skyrocketed prices are still stupid 2 million will get you not too much around here
    alot of casual buyers are now priced out cost of entry to the kingdom is way too high
    realtors are up in arms and blaming the gov't for short term rental bans and restrictions
    these restrictions are supposidly cutting into their sales, guess their run up in prices had nothing to do with it
    people are still buying 1.5 million dollar dumps and calling me to "fix it up" they want a pimp pad and I say it'll start at $150 sq ft and they freak even though they bought a shit hole for $900 sq ft
    typical bullshit neighbors pimp unit sold for $800 sq ft
    so they guy with the "I haven't done anything to my unit, it's all 1992 inside" thinks they can get $800 sq ft also


    I'm looking at shitty far away small towns
    prices there are still stupid
    500k for a shit house in a small town with no jobs no tourism well not much of anything actually
    the houses are sitting and I'm like everyone else waiting for them to come back down to reality 230k like they were three years ago


    gonna be interesting to see what shakes out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Name Redacted View Post
    Same here in CO. People blamed the fireworks ban and lack of town fireworks. But I think that's bullshit. Gas prices, the weather, and the STR restrictions in every town up here have cause rates for STRs and hotel room to go through the roof.
    fyi
    in the 1990s many many developers came to summit county proposing hotel developments
    not condos but hotels
    the county and city of breck ran them out of town and made it so difficult to build hotels and large developments of that sort that the developers gave up

    so here we are today with short terms filling that void

    unless you are breckenridge grand vacations who got a pass in the early 2000's
    which is run by the biggest scum bag ex local now cherry creek resident who has been given everything he needs to build giant time share hotel condos while providing little to no employee or deed restricted housing like any other developer has too

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastfred View Post
    I'm looking at shitty far away small towns
    prices there are still stupid
    500k for a shit house in a small town with no jobs no tourism well not much of anything actually
    the houses are sitting and I'm like everyone else waiting for them to come back down to reality 230k like they were three years ago
    In the meantime...
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    Quote Originally Posted by alpinevibes View Post
    No, itís down over the edge of the groomer, shielded by some trees and itís near bottom of the mountain. The somewhat unique quality to Aspen Mountain is that there are only ~10 houses that actually have ski in/out access touching the resort and maybe 75-100 condos units.

    Absolutely stupid price, but itís a special house in a way.
    I can't say I've ever noticed that house. Very tucked away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastfred View Post

    45 million is fair price
    but ski in and ski out walk to downtown private large lot that shit doesn't grown on trees like suburbs do
    if aspen ever decides to let single family homes be built again (I thought breck was fucking up on their green building we care about the environment and the local worker shit and short term rental issues) but aspen is on a whole nother level of fucking stupidity I digress but you'd be able to squeeze one more house in on that acre of land or buldoze the dam thing and build a condo tower

    the gorsuch family takes the winning for that right now

    since aspen won't let people build homes anymore they just added a 40% surcharge to real estate prices gov't planning at it's best and since most of the town council in living in subsized gov't housing they don't really understand how the real world works
    I don't fully agree with the direction the council is taking on residential construction, but I agree that something has to be done to slow the roll. It's just been insane here over the last two years and ripples out into so many other problems to continue the overall demise of Aspen. But the unintended consequences of last week's decisions will have major implications as well: creative 59% work arounds and yet-another-Aspen-side-market for demo permits...

    That said - the majority of City Council does not (and has not, for a while) lived in subsidized housing. Councilors get paid ~$30k a year, meaning you need to have A) a nice nest egg or trust fund to step into the role, B) a low-commitment/high-pay side gig or C) truly affordable housing (ie long roots) and the thriftiness to survive those years. County commissioners make $80k, which is liveable:

    Mayor Torre: Lives in a free market Condo, works a "Tennis Pro in Aspen" driving a Z3 - you can connect the dots.

    Millennial Skippy: Lives in a free market rental, has a patchy work history up until his Council election but somehow managed to scrape together $100k to get a franchise STR business off the ground. Is currently bidding on subsidized housing condos; gotta get in while you qualify! You can connect the dots.

    Ward: Lives in a free market house with a Z-estimate of $5M. Successful small business owner before moving to Aspen full time.

    John: Lives in a free market condo, longtime local and artist since 1982.

    Rachel: Lives in a subsidized condo she purchased in 1988 for $64k, now worth ~$200k. 30 year public servant - mayor, county commissioner and city councilor. She was working at City Market part-time to pay the bills recently.


    The previous councils included:

    Ann: Lives in a free market house with a Z-estimate of $8M. Successful small business owner before moving to Aspen full time.

    Adam: Lives in a free market house with a Z-estimate of $10M. Successful currency trader before moving to Aspen full time.

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