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  1. #18251
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peruvian View Post
    Hahahaha!

    The housing market has barely beat inflation in the long term. It was only during 1990-2006 that housing even came close to equities.

    As dunfee said, the stock market made and lost fortunes in that time and still outperformed the housing market.

    That being said, any individuals experience (depending on location, what stocks were held, etc) may differ.
    If you are looking just at the equity generated by home appreciation, then yes, stocks would rise more than home value. However, if you factor in rental income, depreciation, tax advantages, hedging against inflation, etc (not to mention the whole "roof over your head" thing). Then RE can have advantages over stocks. A good portfolio will generally contain at least some RE investment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    Oh, shit Fred, I gave up on Summit a long time ago. Distant suburb of Denver. Easy.
    The worst decision is indecision. Pick a place and pull the trigger. Then inevitably bitch and complain about it here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Name Redacted View Post
    If you are looking just at the equity generated by home appreciation, then yes, stocks would rise more than home value. However, if you factor in rental income, depreciation, tax advantages, hedging against inflation, etc (not to mention the whole "roof over your head" thing). Then RE can have advantages over stocks. A good portfolio will generally contain at least some RE investment.
    Since 1941? Jesus the junior slumlords talk their book.

    historically for commercial property only us retail property has been a hedge against inflation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peruvian View Post
    Hahahaha!

    The housing market has barely beat inflation in the long term. It was only during 1990-2006 that housing even came close to equities.

    As dunfee said, the stock market made and lost fortunes in that time and still outperformed the housing market.

    That being said, any individuals experience (depending on location, what stocks were held, etc) may differ.
    It's a rent vs buy slideshow for first time homebuyers.
    The inflation number is about renting vs buying not the benefits of investing in the stock or housing markets.
    When you add in inflation, rising rent prices the monthly cost to own a home is a good investment.
    87% of peoples retirements come from the equity in their homes. If I know someone that was renting and had $10K I would tell someone to buy a home instead of investing in the equity markets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mud View Post
    The inflation number is about renting vs buying
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Name Redacted View Post
    If you are looking just at the equity generated by home appreciation, then yes, stocks would rise more than home value. However, if you factor in rental income, depreciation, tax advantages, hedging against inflation, etc (not to mention the whole "roof over your head" thing). Then RE can have advantages over stocks. A good portfolio will generally contain at least some RE investment.
    The big plus is not dealing with wall street.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dunfree View Post
    lol
    You do know that index does not include RE, right?

    The world is perfect. Appreciate the details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BC13 View Post
    The Island looks great. If there are fish in them there waters it looks downright dreamy.

    My deceased uncle bought into an Island on a beautiful lake in the ADKs in the early 80s. The home is an early 1900s cedar sided beauty with a 100 foot covered porch. There is nothing quite like the peace of being on the island, but it is a shit ton of work. Everything has to come over in the boat. From groceries to tools to propane tanks and toilet paper. And garbage has to be brought back off the island as well as the empty propane tanks. He was a workaholic professor and spent his summers completing major freaking projects, some of which included me as the free teenage labor. He had more energy and time than $$ so he was always working to keep up with mother nature. (Roofs, dock, painting, boat house, septic, mowing lawn)

    If you can put a low upkeep seasonal cabin up you will have a blast. Sounds like that is what it will be limited to given being off the grid. Dont underestimate the PIA of putting every thing in the boat and then bringing it to the cabin in rainy, windy shitty weather. As people age the extra leg of the trip can wear on you.

    I don't mean to piss on your island, as it looks fantastic and I would do it if I was single and did not have to make compromises with a significant other. I just wanted you to really think about the extra step for each trip to the store.

    My uncle loved his place. He died of a heart attack 3 years ago after he tied up at the boathouse on the landside. He loved that lake and island. Frankly, I cannot imagine a better way to go if it was as quick as is thought. In a boat, on a lake. My cousin, who has no kids, now spends 120+ days a year there and is loving it.

    A simple dock and one or two room cabin with direct TV to catch football would be awesome for me.

    I hope you do it and love it!

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    I just signed an offer on the island. 25 percent below asking. Waiting to hear from seller. Fingers crossed….


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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry View Post
    I just signed an offer on the island. 25 percent below asking. Waiting to hear from seller. Fingers crossed….


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    Île-de-Harry, I like the sound of that. Congrats!

    First get a hot tub, second a potato cannon. Then invite mags: Profit.

    The floggings will continue until morale improves.

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    Hope it’s a good cold winter so you can drive over and get what a you want done Harry

    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    You do know that index does not include RE, right?
    bunfuck, that’s shelter. This is without shelter

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    Um yeah, sure is. It's like the bubble never happened!

    The world is perfect. Appreciate the details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry View Post
    I just signed an offer on the island. 25 percent below asking. Waiting to hear from seller. Fingers crossed….


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    Seller counter offered 5 percent under asking. I smell blood. Time to play hardball.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry View Post
    Seller counter offered 5 percent under asking. I smell blood. Time to play hardball.


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    split that shit and close that fucking DEAL....

    good luck mag

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    As a kid I did summer camp on an island in Lake Winnepesaukee NH. YMCA site, and some of the best times of my life.

    The maintenance guy / caretaker was the only one living there year round.

    He had a small hovercraft to use going back and forth to town during the swing seasons when ice was too much for the boat and not enough for the sleds or truck.

    Just a thought if you are trying to use / access it all year.

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    There are some rich dentists here

    But none of them own an island.

    Richard Branson. Epstein wealth. You got this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry View Post
    I just signed an offer on the island. 25 percent below asking. Waiting to hear from seller. Fingers crossed….


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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry View Post
    Seller counter offered 5 percent under asking. I smell blood. Time to play hardball.


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    I countered with 23 percent under, seller countered with 15 percent under asking. I knew it, he is weak. I’m going in for the kill...



    In fastfred style, I went out to the island and got baked as fuck all afternoon. Used my smartphone to e-sign documents.

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    Cool! Ask for his boat in the last offer.

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    And his daughter.

    The world is perfect. Appreciate the details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry View Post
    I countered with 23 percent under, seller countered with 15 percent under asking. I knew it, he is weak. I’m going in for the kill...



    In fastfred style, I went out to the island and got baked as fuck all afternoon. Used my smartphone to e-sign documents.

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    Sick Harry! Good luck.

    I don’t often miss Wisconsin but when I do I miss up Nordth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry View Post
    I countered with 23 percent under, seller countered with 15 percent under asking. I knew it, he is weak. I’m going in for the kill...



    In fastfred style, I went out to the island and got baked as fuck all afternoon. Used my smartphone to e-sign documents.

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    Stoked! I'll probably be out in a month, looking forward to checking it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neufox47 View Post
    Sick Harry! Good luck.

    I don’t often miss Wisconsin but when I do I miss up Nordth.
    Where is the dividing line for northern Wisconsin?
    We need a thread
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    Real Estate Crash thread

    To be clear, it’s up nort’. And it’s only up nort’ if it’s further north than the place you live or identify with.

    If you live further north than a place commonly considered up nort’ it’s a hallowed pastime to sneer at all the touristy “northern” kitsch if you ever happen to drive far enough south to see it.
    focus.

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    Where does upstate Wisconsin begin?

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    Good Luck - agree that now that the potential exists for a hovercraft - I feel the island of Harry will require its own thread////or possibly a sub-tread of the up-state thread.

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