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  1. #16851
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevo View Post
    Meanwhile, in Driggs things have entered the "are you fucking kidding me?" phase- https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4...04097778_zpid/
    LOL, I almost bought one of those in ‘99 or so for about $189k. Hilarious. Ended up with a much nicer house in Victor, (for not much more $$) but isn’t worth quite that (or so I thought). Strange times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan_pdx View Post
    I need to draw on the wisdom of crowds, but I'm going to settle for whatever I can get from you lot instead

    Here's my take on things: even though we appear to be in an unsustainable RE bubble that's ripe to pop, the new covid variants are going to result in more lockdowns and extended WFH, which is going to keep driving RE prices higher for at least the next 6-8 months, especially in "Zoom towns" and other non-major metros.

    What do you think? Is that on target?
    Magic eight ball says, "Ask again in 6 months."

    Let's wait and see what happens with the eviction moratorium ending and how that plays out.
    "We don't beat the reaper by living longer, we beat the reaper by living well and living fully." - Randy Pausch

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    Quote Originally Posted by muted reborn View Post
    That's not a teller window, there's no slot to exchange anything.


    You guys shitting on Bozeman as never being cool: THAT WAS THE POINT. In the nineties it was a small sleepy cow town with incredible beauty and one of the coolest ski areas in NA very close by. People drove through and couldn't see what the locals saw. If you wanted a cooler town, go to Missoula. Then all the local downtown places turned from machine repairs, mom and pop stores, to art galleries and douchey bars by 2005, and the newcomers came and said 'wow no soul here!'. Yeah, they are catering to you guys. Cause and effect.

    Yeah, Bridger is the soul of the community, if that's not enough too bad. And all the old quiet neighborhoods are very peaceful and calm to live in. I can't comment on all the new subdivisons that are just weird. Things changed 20 years ago, not last year.

    And Bozeman is still special. I miss skiing with the local kids and seeing them grow up to be cool humans. I miss the community badly, not the town itself.
    This^^

    I left in 2003 but it was just fine for those of us that lived there then. I worked at "the" coffee shop which was also a community hub. Lots of down to earth folks and familiar faces. I loved that it was still off the radar then and missoula was "cooler".

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    Things continue to be insane here. New construction in my hood is on the market for $900k+. One place has raised it's asking price every couple of months for a year as it's been being built and it's now at $989k.

    On my street a guy built a house 2 years ago that's way fancier than everything else, then put it on the market at $1.5M about a month ago. It's already under contract. The next door neighbor has like 20 junk tractors in the back yard, but the RE photos didn't depict that detail.

    (I bought for under $200k in 2013 and others in the hood were selling for $350k as late as 3 years ago. The real junkers are now going for $400+.)
    ride bikes, climb, ski, travel, cook, work to fund former, repeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yonder_River View Post
    I worked at "the" coffee shop which was also a community hub. Lots of down to earth folks and familiar faces. I loved that it was still off the radar then and missoula was "cooler".
    Awesome. That coffee shop sponsored the alternative campus 'zine Bob F. and I produced in the nineties and I am grateful for that. They supported a very questionable and angsty creative writing outlet in a supposedly soulless cowtown back in the day. (Bob moved on to the Chronicle after graduation and was responsible for writing the ridiculously funny Police Reports there, which as you may know was infamous beyond even Bozeman.)

    I worked at 'the' sandwich shop in town so everyone recognized me even if they couldn't quite place me, ha. I'm sure you and I crossed paths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadman View Post
    Magic eight ball says, "Ask again in 6 months."

    Let's wait and see what happens with the eviction moratorium ending and how that plays out.
    Yeah, I would feel the same way, but I'm looking at selling / buying / moving towns at some point in the next 6-7 months. Kind of leaning towards "it's going to keep getting crazier" so selling, renting for approx. 6 mo. then buying might not be a good play.

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    More Zillow bullshit, their rental ‘zestimate’ for the houses on our block in JH is $12,500 a month.
    OK.
    We do not have a ‘fancy’ house.
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  8. #16858
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    That must be based on vacation rents it is picking up.
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    I think you'd have an easier time understanding people if you remembered that 80% of them are fucking morons.
    That is why I like dogs, more than most people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan_pdx View Post
    Yeah, I would feel the same way, but I'm looking at selling / buying / moving towns at some point in the next 6-7 months. Kind of leaning towards "it's going to keep getting crazier" so selling, renting for approx. 6 mo. then buying might not be a good play.
    I think this depends on where you are moving. Seattle and Portland markets have had much smaller dips than other places (see chart comparing Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, and the most volatile markets in the West-Phoenix and Las Vegas). Bellingham seems to mirror what is going on in Seattle much more than say, Bend to Portland, because Bellingham is only 1.5 hours from Seattle and all the cool kids in Seattle want to move there. So don't expect a major dip anytime soon in Bellingham.

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    Quote Originally Posted by altasnob View Post
    I think this depends on where you are moving. Seattle and Portland markets have had much smaller dips than other places (see chart comparing Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, and the most volatile markets in the West-Phoenix and Las Vegas). Bellingham seems to mirror what is going on in Seattle much more than say, Bend to Portland, because Bellingham is only 1.5 hours from Seattle and all the cool kids in Seattle want to move there. So don't expect a major dip anytime soon in Bellingham.

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    Yeah, the plan is to sell in PDX and move to Bellingham. We had been planning to sell our Portland house next month and then rent in Bellingham until we find something we like, but if I assume another hot year in the RE market, the idea of being on the sidelines while prices go up another X% in Bellingham is not appealing. Now thinking we're just going to stay in Portland until we can actually buy in Bellingham.

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    Everyone I know who has made the move from Seattle to Bellingham is loaded. Some were able to keep their Seattle house, rent it out, and move to Bellingham. My good friend kept his Seattle area engineering manager job (and salary), works from home three days a week, and wakes up at 3 am to drive into Seattle from Bellingham two days a week. He has a co-worker who commutes from Canada. Bellingham might have the highest cost-real estate relative to what the regular jobs in the area pay of anywhere in the US. If any medium-size city can pass Bozeman on % growth in the next 30 years, it will be Bellingham. It's not as well known to East Coasters as Bozeman but there is a major pipeline from Seattle to Bellingham (think of what Bend would be like if it was only 1.5 hours from Portland).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yonder_River View Post
    This^^

    I left in 2003 but it was just fine for those of us that lived there then. I worked at "the" coffee shop which was also a community hub. Lots of down to earth folks and familiar faces. I loved that it was still off the radar then and missoula was "cooler".
    Not sure I can square this with the fact that Bozeman house prices have been completely irrational for 20+ years and Missoula was sane until about 5 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by altasnob View Post
    Everyone I know who has made the move from Seattle to Bellingham is loaded.

    Bellingham might have the highest cost-real estate relative to what the regular jobs in the area pay of anywhere in the US.
    Truth. A friend who was a recent east coast transplant and I were going for a beer, and looking around downtown he opined, "there sure are a lots of people here that don't seem to have to work"

    Quote Originally Posted by altasnob View Post
    If any medium-size city can pass Bozeman on % growth in the next 30 years, it will be Bellingham. It's not as well known to East Coasters as Bozeman but there is a major pipeline from Seattle to Bellingham (think of what Bend would be like if it was only 1.5 hours from Portland).
    The one thing standing in the way of that is that city hall is anti-sprawl. It's infill, or forget it. The spillover effect is that Ferntucky, and the Skagit Valley are growing instead (when it comes to entry-to-mid-priced SFHs). But I suppose it's only a matter of time before all of the I5 corridor is developed as one giant tentacle of Seattle.

    Quote Originally Posted by altasnob View Post
    and all the cool kids ... want to move there
    Plus the never ending stream of the newly retired. That's what I was getting at with my demographics post above. Years ago, someone declared this town to be one of the best places to retire and the graying of Bellingham began. And it makes sense because there are very few good jobs in this town if you aren't in medicine or academia.

    It's their money (whether it's for them or their adult children) vs the WFM middle demo that pushes the bidding wars skyward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by altasnob View Post
    Everyone I know who has made the move from Seattle to Bellingham is loaded. Some were able to keep their Seattle house, rent it out, and move to Bellingham. My good friend kept his Seattle area engineering manager job (and salary), works from home three days a week, and wakes up at 3 am to drive into Seattle from Bellingham two days a week. He has a co-worker who commutes from Canada. Bellingham might have the highest cost-real estate relative to what the regular jobs in the area pay of anywhere in the US. If any medium-size city can pass Bozeman on % growth in the next 30 years, it will be Bellingham. It's not as well known to East Coasters as Bozeman but there is a major pipeline from Seattle to Bellingham (think of what Bend would be like if it was only 1.5 hours from Portland).
    It's getting pretty fucked up here. People ask how you can tell they just moved from pdx/sfo/hellonearth. The noobs have the plates, the people trying to be local have BXX0000 license plates.

    Anyone need help on their 500k knob and tube house electrical, hit me up

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    I guess Billings is where it's at. Sounds like Bozeman is played out already.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/great-res...105053530.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadman View Post
    I guess Billings is where it's at. Sounds like Bozeman is played out already.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/great-res...105053530.html
    Next up: Great Falls

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    Chinook !


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    Browning FTW
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadman View Post
    I guess Billings is where it's at. Sounds like Bozeman is played out already.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/great-res...105053530.html
    Butte

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    Highest inventory in my former hood in a couple years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    Anaconda
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    Browning FTW
    Haha. We should totally start a fake campaign to dupe clueless West coasters into moving to places like that, as we were talking about with Limon and Kit Carson, CO.

    Only problem with Browning is that it DOES at least have good access to the Glacier area, so we need to send these foos somewhere even more remote.

    ...like Plentywood, Montana.

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    Wife snapped this yesterday. Just zero self awareness with these self-entitled CA douchebags...
    How NOT to make friends as you move in:

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    Pic taken in Montana?

    ... which isn't on the way from CA to TX, unless you're on vacation, in which case pay for it yourself.
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    if you have to resort to taking advice from the nitwits on this forum, then you're doomed.

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