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Thread: Do Mormons really affect you?
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04-03-2006, 12:24 PM #101
Bottom Line: Until Bush is gone we all live in Utah. Welcome to the club.
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04-03-2006, 12:27 PM #102Originally Posted by bigtrubs
So this is a little tough to do over the internet in less than a paragraph, but I'll do my best.
1)I'm guessing you're referring to garments. Garments are worn by members of the church who have been through the temple. They are representative of the clothes Adam and Eve made before they were kicked out of the Garden of Eden. Yes, it's underwear, and yes it may seem strange. But forget about how weird it sounds and understand that they basically serve as a reminder of who we are and what we represent (our commitment to be good people and do what's right). It's kind of a personal thing, and tough to explain in a paragraph. Garments are definitely one of those things that would seem freakish and strange if you didn't understand some of the things that precede them.
2) Absolutely not. This we be the sweet meat if it were true.
3)The Book of Mormon is a collection of writings from prophets that lived on the American Continent. The first prophet to write in it came from Jerusalem and brought his family to the Americas. It contains an account of when Christ visited the Americas. Many of the writings of these prophets recounted the cyclical rise and fall of two peoples and their descendants--the Lamanites and the Nephites. At one point in the Book of Mormon, the Lamanites were cursed for being a wicked people, and yes, their skin was turned "dark". However, this in no way dictates mormons as believing that blacks are wicked. The changed color of their skin was more an indication to those around them of their wickedness (as perceived by God). As you mentioned, the Lamanites did gain favor with the Lord again, but their skin remained dark. If they had been black to start off, then God quite possibly would have made them lighter skinned. The original people that came over from the Mediterranean were lighter skinned. There are many times in the Book of Mormon where the Nephites turned wicked as well. Racism is absolutely frowned upon in the church--in fact, just this weekend we had General Conference, where leaders of the Church give talks, discourses, etc. and racism and our inacceptance of such behavior was addressed several times.
Whether you're interested in the church or not, you should try reading the Book of Mormon. I think you'd find it interesting.
Like I said--tough to explain over the internet. Hope that helps.The Griz
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04-03-2006, 12:28 PM #103
I am studying Spanish at the University of Utah. I don't know the exact numbers, but a majority of the students in my major are returned missionaries from latin american countries, as is true for the other language majors at the U.
And dang it wouldn't you know, being a minority can be frustrating. I don't learn things the same way, I don't talk about the same things, I don't make social connections the same way as many of my classmates do. Sometimes I wish my classmates shared my interests, wanted to get together to drink on a weekend, or had sex lives not so alien to my reality. But I think the way things are for me helps me define who I am through contrast. I don't really ever go with the crowd which pushes me to make stronger justifications for my beliefs. And when I do agree with the majority, I find acceptance of a different point of view that I wouldn't have had in a homogenous environment.
Originally Posted by BlurredElevens
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04-03-2006, 12:30 PM #104Originally Posted by bigtrubs
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04-03-2006, 12:32 PM #105
The whole polygamy thing has made me question my anti-mormon sentiments.
That doesn't sound too bad. "Yeah, I have 18 wives, and I'm doing it for God".
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04-03-2006, 12:32 PM #106Originally Posted by The AD
Blurred - don't you have some triple pillow drop gnar line to be scoping? I like you better when you bring the stoke."In the woods, we return to reason and faith. There I feel that nothing can befall me in life, — no disgrace, no calamity, (leaving me my eyes,) which nature cannot repair." -Emerson
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04-03-2006, 12:33 PM #107
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
One good thing about mormons is their incredible knowledge and high level of twitch to ski the west face of Timpanongos. As they all stare at it while going to BYU or attending the MTC.
If I was a youngster attending BYU, I'd certainly be distracted. As I'm sure many are. You know who you are.
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04-03-2006, 12:37 PM #108Originally Posted by alto
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04-03-2006, 12:42 PM #109Originally Posted by powstash
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04-03-2006, 12:43 PM #110
I'm always confused by the whole pre-columbian contact thing. sounds bogus to me. but then, i believe in a dude who rose from the dead, so who am I to judge?
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04-03-2006, 12:43 PM #111Originally Posted by grizzle6Believe.
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04-03-2006, 12:45 PM #112Originally Posted by flykdog
That is scary. Religious discrimination should have ended decades ago. I have not read this thread completely, so I am sorry if I say something that has already been posted, but how do those of you who are mormon feel about this? Do you look at it as OK to discriminate against someone seeking a job because they are not mormon? I would hope not. I realize their are good mormons and bad mormons(same as any other creed or ethnic background) and I do not want to lump everyone together. This behavior should generate deep outrage from anyone who reads that story, both mormons and non-mormons.Last edited by Long duc dong; 04-03-2006 at 12:52 PM.
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04-03-2006, 12:47 PM #113Originally Posted by The AD
"The Book of Mormon has been organized into 6,607 verses, of which 3,925 refer to Jesus Christ, employing more than 100 uses of HIS name. Thus, some form of Christ's name was used by these ancient writers an average of one reference per 1.7 verses in the Book of Mormon." (Susan Easton Black, Finding Christ through the Book of Mormon [1987], 16­18)
Yeah...you could say the mormons (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) have no doubt about who Christ is.
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04-03-2006, 12:52 PM #114Originally Posted by Endlessseason
Yep, I was waiting for a comment like this. I'll be there for the start of next season!
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04-03-2006, 12:52 PM #115Originally Posted by bigtrubs
In the book of John, Christ comments to the Jews that there are "other sheep which are not of this fold" and says that they are to hear his voice.
Christ visited the Americas after his death and ressurrection.Last edited by CS; 04-03-2006 at 12:58 PM.
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04-03-2006, 12:53 PM #116Originally Posted by bigtrubs
Just as the Bible is a collection of writings from prophets in the Mediterranean, the Book of Mormon is a collection of writings from prophets in the Americas. Think of it as a father writing a letter to two sons--both on different sides of the globes. Same message--different address.
One of the differences is that the Bible has gone through several translations, losing some information and detail by the hand of man in the process. The Book of Mormon clarifies some of these areas i.e. pre-existence, purpose of life, where we go when we die--among other things. It is a book centered around Jesus Christ and his mission.The Griz
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04-03-2006, 12:55 PM #117Originally Posted by CS
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04-03-2006, 12:56 PM #118Originally Posted by CS
edit: oops, endless beat me to this one.
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04-03-2006, 12:57 PM #119Originally Posted by EndlessseasonThe Griz
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04-03-2006, 12:58 PM #120I believe Mormons consider themselves to be Christians, but someone who actually is Mormon should confirm this since I'm neither."dad, do Unicorns poop."
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04-03-2006, 12:58 PM #121
Mormons make me jump my bike over big jumps.
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04-03-2006, 12:58 PM #122
yeah yeah
fixed
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04-03-2006, 01:00 PM #123Originally Posted by grizzle6
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04-03-2006, 01:00 PM #124Originally Posted by grizzle6
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04-03-2006, 01:00 PM #125Originally Posted by grizzle6
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