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02-08-2006, 08:56 AM #1
Atomic Thug - all new construction?
Ok, major techno weenie talk here, but I just saw some pictures of the new Thug and to my surprise the top sheet was all "flat" and it had vertical sidewalls. Not the good ol' beta construction. Have I missed something? Wood core?
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02-08-2006, 12:21 PM #2
Atomics Freeride skis have are being produced the snowboarding facotry now, so they are going to be sandwich construction, which I applaud.
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02-08-2006, 12:23 PM #3
Only the Thug and Triplets will be flat, sandwich construction.
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02-08-2006, 02:47 PM #4custom user title?
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yeah, the daddys will remain beta
but i saw sandwich AND beta triplets at the ispo...
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02-08-2006, 03:48 PM #5
Thug's look and feel nice I think.
Clicky clicky...
Looking forward to gettin a pair or two; i guess I can find a use for them as supertechy minigolf line skis or something. Dunno about the core; if it's wood they're surprisingly light, but then so are the Bro and others.self unemployed?
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02-08-2006, 04:50 PM #6glocal
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B - your toe has a halo; did it die and go to heaven?
From that site:
Also getting a pintail design instead of the racing inspired tail shape of the current Big Daddy will help the ski perform like it’s supposed to, letting it slash and smear a lot better.
just after this:
New Big Daddy dimensions are 145-125-19
I'm assuming the tail is 129 or 119, right?
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02-08-2006, 04:56 PM #7
145-125-129
"It is not the result that counts! It is not the result but the spirit! Not what - but how. Not what has been attained - but at what price.
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02-08-2006, 05:22 PM #8Originally Posted by splat
Toe pic. Hehe. Nail died as it often does, toe is still around. I guess that assatar style changed but Iæm known to be a tad slow on the uptake (I still haven't fully understood this whole short ski craze either ).self unemployed?
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02-08-2006, 05:23 PM #9glocal
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I want to ski that ski. I've been thinking about shaving a mm or two off the tail of the Bros and blowing them out a little wider to the Big Bro (yes, I heard you, marshal). We've been debating this since the first Bro. I'd love to see what they've done with the BD. It sounds along the same line of thinking, maybe even moreso.
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02-08-2006, 05:31 PM #10
The thug did feel very similar to some Bro's I've seen, though definately not as stiff as the stiff Bro's.
Thugs have too much sidecut imo to be an allround ski at that size (120waist to 134 tail) and will probably not smear and throw around as well as I perosnally think it should. It should be very playful at lower speeds though and also I guess I'd like it for minigolf and stuff, where it's short contact length (true twin = loss of length, contact length is like 7-8cm shorter than new BD I guesstimate) will be handy. If I had to choose between the two I'd pick the new BD any day though.
Would be fun to see what you could do with a larger footprint and your current construction I thinkself unemployed?
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02-08-2006, 05:40 PM #11
May have to get my hands on a pair of those THUGS for next season. They sound pretty cool. Look forward to some more reviews. I like what Vicious had to say about them.
Skiing Sucks! What a stupid sport!
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02-08-2006, 07:04 PM #12glocal
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'Cuse me, I meant to say the new BDs, not thugs....
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02-08-2006, 07:38 PM #13Originally Posted by TelepathI've got more suits than Liberace, but less than Eastvailhucker.
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02-08-2006, 08:08 PM #14Originally Posted by splat
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02-08-2006, 11:45 PM #15
triplets
[QUOTE=freak]yeah, the daddys will remain beta
but i saw sandwich AND beta triplets at the ispo...
The urban triplets are sandwich, the others are still beta construction.
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02-09-2006, 12:01 AM #16Originally Posted by Vicious
Though I aggree, 125 underfoot might be a centimetre too much for an everyday ski (BD's have been my everyday si for 3 years now); but if they're a lot better in soft I'll gladly use something else those other boilerplate days. I think they'll be ok allround too though.self unemployed?
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02-09-2006, 10:22 AM #17Originally Posted by Telepath
Perhaps the edges on the pair you rode were just too sharp and were hooking on you??
I'm definitely an advocate of using big skis on an everyday basis, but my current everyday skis (m103 and ANT) are 103 and 106 underfoot. 125 underfoot wouldn't be bad everyday if you aren't in tight spots alot, but could get to be a bit much in tighter trees or terrain that's a bit bumped out.I've got more suits than Liberace, but less than Eastvailhucker.
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02-09-2006, 11:45 AM #18Registered User
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Originally Posted by Telepath
A Rossi Axiom (a pretty straight ski by all accounts) has 5mm, waist to tail
A Head Supermojo has 7.5mm, waist to tail.
A Seth Vicious (a ski you don't like) has 10mm, waist to tail.
I'd say the Thug sounds about perfect.
The new BD, if it really is 120mm to 129mm (4.5mm), is really damn straight.
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02-09-2006, 12:08 PM #19
I think that you guys are missing to a degree what TP's saying and getting hung up on his Danish choice of words (goddamned Danes fucking all kinds of shit up lately).
BTW- the new bd is 125-129 w/t not 120-129"It is not the result that counts! It is not the result but the spirit! Not what - but how. Not what has been attained - but at what price.
- A. Solzhenitsyn
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02-09-2006, 12:09 PM #20Originally Posted by Vicious"It is not the result that counts! It is not the result but the spirit! Not what - but how. Not what has been attained - but at what price.
- A. Solzhenitsyn
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02-09-2006, 12:12 PM #21Originally Posted by lemon boyI've got more suits than Liberace, but less than Eastvailhucker.
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02-09-2006, 12:30 PM #22....................
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well, I like the look of the new BDs but think the Thug is ugly.
this thread also introduced me to coreshot.com, which looks pretty goddamned cool.
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02-09-2006, 01:05 PM #23Originally Posted by Vicious
Heh, yeah, this english stuff is difficult at times.self unemployed?
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02-09-2006, 01:48 PM #24Lambaster
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those bid daddies give me a big boner
"... she'll never need a doctor; 'cause I check her out all day"
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02-09-2006, 02:07 PM #25Originally Posted by Pope Benedict XVI"It is not the result that counts! It is not the result but the spirit! Not what - but how. Not what has been attained - but at what price.
- A. Solzhenitsyn
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