Setting forward pressure on Salomon bindings with tab adjustment

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  • El Chupacabra
    pillowpants
    • Sep 2004
    • 21794

    #1

    Setting forward pressure on Salomon bindings with tab adjustment

    What's the proper procedure to set forward pressure on Salomon bindings that use a tab on the heelpiece (rather than the worm screw on the heelpiece)?

    If you slide the heelpiece forward with boot in the binding, you end up with a bit more slack than seems ideal.

    So do you set it snug with boot in heelpiece, remove boot, slide heelpiece 1 notch forward, then re-insert boot for test fit? If I set it up this way, the heelpiece pushes rearward a bit when inserting the boot, as if it's designed to do this. <-- correct method?
    Originally posted by powder11
    if you have to resort to taking advice from the nitwits on this forum, then you're doomed.
  • Conundrum
    Hucked to flat once
    • Oct 2005
    • 11252

    #2
    The heelpiece moving is fine. There should be a little arrow on the back of the side of the main body. When the forward pressure is correct, this little arrow will be pointing in between the scribed lines on top of the tab.
    Originally posted by Benny Profane
    Well, I'm not allowed to delete this post, but, I can say, go fuck yourselves, everybody!

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    • Mechmaster
      Registered User
      • Jun 2004
      • 333

      #3
      Originally posted by El Chupacabra
      What's the proper procedure to set forward pressure on Salomon bindings that use a tab on the heelpiece (rather than the worm screw on the heelpiece)?

      If you slide the heelpiece forward with boot in the binding, you end up with a bit more slack than seems ideal.

      So do you set it snug with boot in heelpiece, remove boot, slide heelpiece 1 notch forward, then re-insert boot for test fit? If I set it up this way, the heelpiece pushes rearward a bit when inserting the boot, as if it's designed to do this. <-- correct method?
      The heel movement is the preload in the forward pressure spring. You can move the heel with the boot engaged or disengaged. I usually remove the boot so I don't have to fight the forward pressure spring.

      If you look closely at the worm screw heel, you'll see the same motion when a boot is engaged.

      Make sure you set the forward pressure with the toe wings fully backed off. This will ensure that you get the proper three point contact in the toe and will go a long way to preventing the toe wing screw(s) from stripping.

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      • El Chupacabra
        pillowpants
        • Sep 2004
        • 21794

        #4
        Thanks Mechmaster & Conundrum -- I'll look for this arrow --

        Originally posted by Conundrum
        The heelpiece moving is fine. There should be a little arrow on the back of the side of the main body. When the forward pressure is correct, this little arrow will be pointing in between the scribed lines on top of the tab.
        I guessed that the heelpiece moving is the spring preloading the forward pressure, just wasn't sure about how much was enough. I didn't realize there was an indicator.
        Originally posted by powder11
        if you have to resort to taking advice from the nitwits on this forum, then you're doomed.

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        • Jim S
          Tahoe Rad ...as in MRI
          • Dec 2004
          • 5438

          #5
          Karl,

          If you crank 'em too high and don't release when you need to, drive across the street for your MRI.
          Every man dies. Not every man lives.
          You donโ€™t stop playing because you grow old; you grow old because you stop playing.

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          • El Chupacabra
            pillowpants
            • Sep 2004
            • 21794

            #6
            Originally posted by Jim S
            Karl,

            If you crank 'em too high and don't release when you need to, drive across the street for your MRI.
            No offense, but I hope to never ever see you professionally...

            My big goal for the year: don't get injured. The past 6 months have been recovery from one thing or another. I'm tired of it and ready to ski until May.
            Originally posted by powder11
            if you have to resort to taking advice from the nitwits on this forum, then you're doomed.

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            • Jim S
              Tahoe Rad ...as in MRI
              • Dec 2004
              • 5438

              #7
              I hope so too!
              Every man dies. Not every man lives.
              You donโ€™t stop playing because you grow old; you grow old because you stop playing.

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              • wildstyle
                Registered User
                • Feb 2005
                • 928

                #8
                Heres the location to download the Salomon Shop manual for 2005/6. It has all the instructions for all the bindings they make and much more besides.

                http://www.salomoncertification.com/...SPM_06_web.pdf (9.32Mb)
                Semper in Pulveris .... Only the depth varies

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                • ill-advised strategy
                  Questionable Tactics
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 13368

                  #9
                  ^^^^now that's some usefull ass shit^^^^

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                  • mammuth
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 11

                    #10
                    Originally posted by wildstyle
                    Heres the location to download the Salomon Shop manual for 2005/6. It has all the instructions for all the bindings they make and much more besides.
                    I just registered here only to say "THANK YOU!!!!!"

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                    • stoicchris
                      hates his liver.
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 325

                      #11
                      I've got an older pair of Salomon 997 Test bindings with the tab adjustment at the back. It doesn't have the forward pressure indicator like the newer models. I'm wondering how to adjust the forward pressure properly. Right now I've just lined up the heelpiece with the back of my boot and then adjusting the wings at the front and the toe height. Is this correct?

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                      • glenplake
                        Not really Glen Plake...
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 407

                        #12
                        Originally posted by stoicchris
                        I've got an older pair of Salomon 997 Test bindings with the tab adjustment at the back. It doesn't have the forward pressure indicator like the newer models. I'm wondering how to adjust the forward pressure properly. Right now I've just lined up the heelpiece with the back of my boot and then adjusting the wings at the front and the toe height. Is this correct?
                        i've got a pair of 957s... on the back there are two triangles. when your boot is in the binder, these triangles should be within the hash-marked areas.

                        it should go from looking like this (you are looking at the back of the rear binding piece):

                        ==.......==
                        ==.......==
                        ==.......==
                        ...|< >|....

                        to this when the boot is in:

                        ==.......==
                        ==|< >|==
                        ==.......==
                        Last edited by glenplake; 03-09-2006, 08:21 AM.
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                        • stoicchris
                          hates his liver.
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 325

                          #13
                          Originally posted by glenplake
                          i've got a pair of 957s... on the back there are two triangles. when your boot is in the binder, these triangles should be within the hash-marked areas.

                          it should go from looking like this (you are looking at the back of the rear binding piece):

                          ==.......==
                          ==.......==
                          ==.......==
                          ...|< >|....

                          to this when the boot is in:

                          ==.......==
                          ==|< >|==
                          ==.......==
                          How far so should the track move back when I click in? Should the triangle move half a hash mark or should it move one and a half hash mark?
                          Last edited by stoicchris; 03-12-2006, 05:47 PM.

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                          • stoicchris
                            hates his liver.
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 325

                            #14
                            Originally posted by stoicchris
                            How far so should the track move back when I click in? Should the triangle move half a hash mark or should it move one and a half hash mark?
                            Anyone know?

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                            • Vitamin I
                              one-track mind
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 2329

                              #15
                              Originally posted by stoicchris
                              Anyone know?
                              Just measured my s914s. Should be the same as yours.

                              When I click the boot in, the tab with triangles does not move, but the rest of heel piece moves backwards. If heel piece moves backwards 3-9mm, then triangles are within the indicator.

                              If your setting gets only 3mm or 4mm movement, you're within the indicator range, but that's very close to the loose limit. So I'd go one notch tighter, which might put you slightly beyond 9mm (not sure), but I'd rather be slightly too tight than slightly too loose...especially with old bindings.
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