Wildfire ‘25

[Foggy_Goggles]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMEGn...t5cWo0d3J3c2F2

[cat in january]

Such a loss on the North Rim of the Grand Canyon. When we were there many summers ago, there were lightning strike fires burning on high ridges nearby. Sad to hear this.

[Meadow Skipper]

Lots of tourists up in Tahoe escaping the heat wave. Some of them at a nearby campground decided to dump the briquettes at the campsite: facepalm.

Fuck!

[stalefish3169]

Driving near Vancouver BC just now and saw what looked to be a gigantic pyrocumulonimbus cloud not far north of Baker/Shuksan. Hard to tell if it was in BC or WA.

Yikes.

Edit:

Looks like it was the Hope Fire.

https://x.com/HotshotWake/status/194...5BS85Dekw&s=19


Second edit:

Probably this fire near Princeton, BC.
https://x.com/RyanVoutilainen/status...0a2muxyiA&s=19

[mcski]

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That’s insane. Which part of Tahoe was this?

[frorider]

Big Meadow CG near Luther

[snoboy]

stalefish, no way you could see the Hope fire from Vancouver area. More likely something near Manning Park. There's some new, active fires out that way.

[stalefish3169]

stalefish, no way you could see the Hope fire from Vancouver area. More likely something near Manning Park. There's some new, active fires out that way.

Just a guess. This was a mushroom cloud thing going 20-30k feet high if I had to guess. Huge blow up.

[skaredshtles]

Well, this is sad.
Wildfires destroy historic lodge on Grand Canyon’s North Rim, park says.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...odge-north-rim

I really preferred the North Rim lodge because it was old and funky, much, much less of a shitshow than the south rim. I liked the view better too, but I guess that’s still there.

This is very sad. My wife and I visited the Lodge after our GC backpacking trip in October.

[old goat]

Assholes at the STR next door to us have done this a couple of times. Cigarette butts in the pine needles are more common , though.

[LongShortLong]

Rough times for the north rim. Wonder what happened that they lost it. I'd expect a good defensive perimeter... Though a quick check of Google maps shows a shake roof on the lodge and thick brush below. Surprised to see that. And all those cute little log cabins look even more vulnerable to fire (hard to tell from street view if they also have shake roofs). Was on my list to stay in one of those some day.

Also check out the large closure area for the chlorine leak. Phantom Ranch is closed, both Kaibab trails too, and rafters are told to pass through without camping.

[I Skied Bandini Mountain]

Trying to manage a cheat grass fire in the desert in July is pretty ambitious.
Wifey and I did our honeymoon trip to the north rim and spent a couple of nights there.

[John_B]

Just a guess. This was a mushroom cloud thing going 20-30k feet high if I had to guess. Huge blow up.

It's the fire in Manning Park. It was burning pretty good yesterday and I assume with the forecasted winds today will be putting up another big plume.

[skaredshtles]

Rough times for the north rim. Wonder what happened that they lost it. I'd expect a good defensive perimeter... Though a quick check of Google maps shows a shake roof on the lodge and thick brush below. Surprised to see that. And all those cute little log cabins look even more vulnerable to fire (hard to tell from street view if they also have shake roofs). Was on my list to stay in one of those some day. Also check out the large closure area for the chlorine leak. Phantom Ranch is closed, both Kaibab trails too, and rafters are told to pass through without camping.

From what I gather, they had to evacuate the fire crews because of the chlorine gas issue - so that may have contributed to the burning of the lodge...

[claymond]

Fuck. Federal fire just out here shooting ourselves in the foot. If you're gonna manage a fire for resource benefit in most of the lower 48, you better have bomber containment lines in place ready to go. And then burn off them well before your hand even might get forced. Better know you're gonna get plenty of resources too. A fire 2 miles away from a visitor center and village in a world famous attraction that doesn't have any of that in place-what the fuck?

[KQ]

Freaking crazy over here. High fire danger day with winds blowing 20 and gusting higher. 100+ degrees. Wheat fires popping up left and right. Had one start in the fields just south of my house but was out after only a could acres as the farmer keeps a disc close.

Not really sure of the wisdom of harvesting today. Mine is staying put.

[John_B]

Hold onto your hat for when the cold front makes it down to you. It hit Okanogan county about an hour ago and has been pretty full on with 40 mph wind and a bunch of starts.

[PB]

Heard there was a chlorine gas leak at the Lodge water treatment facility, forcing evacuations including fire fighting staff, which probably didn't help in the efforts to save the lodge.

[evdog]

Fuck. Federal fire just out here shooting ourselves in the foot. If you're gonna manage a fire for resource benefit in most of the lower 48, you better have bomber containment lines in place ready to go. And then burn off them well before your hand even might get forced. Better know you're gonna get plenty of resources too. A fire 2 miles away from a visitor center and village in a world famous attraction that doesn't have any of that in place-what the fuck?

We might get some answers if Governor gets her way. It'll be interesting to find out if doge cuts played any role. https://www.sfgate.com/national-park...e-20769534.php

[raisingarizona13]

Rumor is that the fire was being managed by NPS staff. It was a lightning strike and for a few days it was very low intensity/smoldering. Somebody with a job making decisions is regretting their decisions in a big way. It only took four days after that lightning for the winds to get rowdy. I'm no fire expert but the first thing I'd look at would be the forecast and make calls based on that. The lodge has burned down before and rebuilt once already back in it's infancy so there's that. That beautiful old growth forest on the NR got cooked though, that's a bummer but that's the way she goes I guess.

[MultiVerse]

The NOAA - NEIS Smoke Data Visualization us a useful tool to see what's happening across the nation, especially for people doing things outside :

https://apps.gsl.noaa.gov/smoke/#

Click on the "Near Surface Smoke" slider

[S_jenks]

Trying to manage a cheat grass fire in the desert in July is pretty ambitious.
Wifey and I did our honeymoon trip to the north rim and spent a couple of nights there.

That is some old school cool there.

[evdog]

Rumor is that the fire was being managed by NPS staff. It was a lightning strike and for a few days it was very low intensity/smoldering. Somebody with a job making decisions is regretting their decisions in a big way. It only took four days after that lightning for the winds to get rowdy. I'm no fire expert but the first thing I'd look at would be the forecast and make calls based on that. The lodge has burned down before and rebuilt once already back in it's infancy so there's that. That beautiful old growth forest on the NR got cooked though, that's a bummer but that's the way she goes I guess.

The SQF complex fire in 2020 was similar. Caused by lightning strikes way out in the Golden Trout Wilderness, the USFS was going to let it do its thing since growth was minimal. After a couple weeks some huge winds picked up and drove it all the way across Sequoia NF and into the National Park, burning 175,000 acres and killing off 10% of all giant sequoias along the way.

[Meadow Skipper]

Rumor is that the fire was being managed by NPS staff. It was a lightning strike and for a few days it was very low intensity/smoldering. Somebody with a job making decisions is regretting their decisions in a big way. It only took four days after that lightning for the winds to get rowdy. I'm no fire expert but the first thing I'd look at would be the forecast and make calls based on that. The lodge has burned down before and rebuilt once already back in it's infancy so there's that. That beautiful old growth forest on the NR got cooked though, that's a bummer but that's the way she goes I guess.

There’s a story here. It will be interesting to hear all the details.

[bodywhomper]

It’ll be interesting to hear.

Steve Pyne on BlueSky: “We shouldn't use a bad fire to destroy a good policy - nor use a good policy to justify a bad fire.”