Sudden wind event in Toronto

[twat]

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/...-25/index.html

[Bunion 2020]

Been a rough 6 weeks for air travel

[SKIP IN7RO]

3W-|-V3

[The SnowShow]

JFC what the hell is going on? Is this normal and we’re just seeing more of it because of the media attention, or is something really concerning going on with flying?

[Thaleia]

I don't think wind has been proven to be a factor (we're like a mere 10 hours after the event) yet but can confirm yes it was windy today and we've had a back to back to back snow cycle that has given us a months snow over a few days.

[twat]

I don't think wind has been proven to be a factor (we're like a mere 10 hours after the event) yet but can confirm yes it was windy today and we've had a back to back to back snow cycle that has given us a months snow over a few days.

Alright, now it is getting interesting. We do have a wind expert on the board!
But squirrels could have played a role. Something like squirrels on a plane. Mix rabies in the plot! Here you go!

[bennymac]

I think one of the chemtrail tanks froze - threw off the balance on approach.

[Core Shot]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...l-footage.html

[Cono Este]

Could a pilot chime in and tell me how you fly a plane into a hard landing like that in decent viz?

[petey_]

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/...-25/index.html

I'm not a pilot but perhaps dropping a baggie of coke on the instrument panel can be distracting? Hoping for a no casualty landing with all said and done. I hate flying but it is always so exciting.

[petey_]

Server fan still broken I see.

[twat]

I think one of the chemtrail tanks froze - threw off the balance on approach.

Fair point - bet they used pirated chemtrail liquid from china.

[Thaleia]

Alright, now it is getting interesting. We do have a wind expert on the board! But squirrels could have played a role. Something like squirrels on a plane. Mix rabies in the plot! Here you go!

Definitly not an expert, just local.

[XXX-er]

I am going to wait for Ted the resident Xspurt





I drove up the ski hill yesturday and I am much safer in an airplane than in that new Tundra

[twat]

Definitly not an expert, just local.

Paging puregravity to the curtesy phone

[Skistack]

Would the plane have flipped had been on a treadmill?

[k2skier112]

Yes, it would have flipped. Instead it did a barrel roll

[AK47bp]

Took it switch to the runway.


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[Bunion 2020]

Obviously the fault of some DEI hire.

[paulster2626]

It was windy AF out here (I'm 20 minutes from the airport). Definitely not out of the realm of possibility that wind was the major factor. I believe the wind direction and runway in use would've put it at a 45 degree angle. Lots of blowing snow yesterday (and today).

[Ted Striker]

This was most likely pilot error.

I don't have any inside information on the specifics of this accident, but I did fly that airplane for years, and it can be a handful. Add that westbound approaches at YYZ can get bumpy as shit.

So watching the cell phone video, it's obvious they didn't really flare. So I'm guessing that whoever was driving didn't see the runway and thought they were higher than they really were.

[The SnowShow]

This was most likely pilot error.

I don't have any inside information on the specifics of this accident, but I did fly that airplane for years, and it can be a handful. Add that westbound approaches at YYZ can get bumpy as shit.

So watching the cell phone video, it's obvious they didn't really flare. So I'm guessing that whoever was driving didn't see the runway and thought they were higher than they really were.

Would a larger plane handle wind shear better than that CRJ?

[Mr. Multiglisse]

From comments on a FB friend's post of the same video (always a reliable source): As a former professional pilot who still holds a commercial certificate, I’ll say that the investigation will determine what caused the accident. As a knowledgeable observer and Monday morning quarterback, it looks like heavy low-level wind shear caused a loss of airspeed just as they were beginning the flare, the right wing stalled, and a hard, side-loaded touchdown caused the right main gear to collapse. It will be interesting to see at exactly what altitude they lost airspeed and if they even had time to hit the TOGA.

What is a TOGA in this context? Edit, searched it out: Definition. Take-off/Go Around (TO/GA) is an autopilot/autothrottle setting activating take-off or go-around thrust. Depending upon aircraft type, it may be activated by depressing a switch or by manually moving the thrust levers to the appropriate position.

[Ted Striker]

RE: windshear CRJ vs other jets

No, the RJ (7 and 9) has tons of power, and the engines spool up fairly quickly. But I haven't heard or read anything to indicate this was actually windshear. It was just a normal windy turbulent day.

[Ted Striker]

RE: TOGA

The CRJ doesn't have auto-throttles and can't go around using the autopilot. It must be hand flown.

So pushing the toga button only puts guidance on your screen for executing a go around. It's up to you to push the power up and actually fly it.

It also doesn't have any kind of auto-land.

The lowest they could've used the autopilot without breaking a limitation of the airplane is 200 feet above ground. But when it's really turbulent, it's easier to hand fly an approach in that airplane than let the autopilot fight it.