Is the US going to Annex Canada? by force? or just destroy the Canadian Econ for fun

[pepperdawg]

Isn't Canadia fighting the needful Indians at the moment?

[californiagrown]

Ive been trying to think of a tongue in cheek reason why it would be a good reason to include America's Hat in the rest of Her outfit... but im honestly stumped. Its pretty dialed already- easy border crossing, great exchange rate for me, speaks english (fuck quebec give it back to france), has weed, my medical insurance works well there. There just isnt really much to complain about... the relationship is pretty dialed already IMO.

I guess the only reason id want to take it over is so that my professional licensure would work there by comity, and id also change the speed limit signs to freedom units (right now im honestly flying blind just trusting the speed of the cars around me).

[DougW]

The oil companies are publicly owned. If you don't believe there are any Canadian interests among those holdings, that's slightly ignorant brother!
Plenty of folks down here don't align w) Trumplestiltskin!
Also, if you turn the key everyday for work and play, you're just another cog in the machine. Just like the rest of us!

Ok my bad I responded to a stupid whataboutism with another even more out of date. Though I don't get your logic, American oil companies are owned by Canadian interests in a range 3-5% so they are no way responsible for the actions of those companies . Its up to the US gov't to regulate what they do offshore. Just in the same way Canadian oil companies that might have 30-40% US ownership are still Canadian companies. Though Canadian oil companies have overall trivial ownership outside of NA.

[DougW]

Having a harsh attitude towards Americans in general because of who is elected president is pretty fucking lame. I think Trudeau is a complete tool but Canada and Canadians are generally pretty fucking excellent. I believe Trudeau went to Mara Lago to hit this head on and have a discussion with the Orange One. Trudeau fell into Trump's childish trap as one would expect but +1 for Trudeau for showing up and being ready to deal.

Yes and no. Americans are responsible for the actions of your elected gov't as you guys elected them. If it was a dictatorship that's a different story. Most countries are though the US seems to think its a special case. There was a South Park episode on that. As long as 1/2 of the people complain no one is responsible.

I could give a pass 8 years ago when Trump was an unknow quanity but in 2024 he was known. The majority of Americans elected a man who almost all of his cabinet said he was a retard and he did extactly what he said he was going to do and did it to current allies and long term trading partners. Yes if Canada has a $100billon trade surplus with US its because we ship 1.6 billion barrels to the US plus some gold . If you don't want it from us then give use time to build the pipelines to sell it to china. We can even put a export tax on it to pay for the pipelines. I'm at the point that we should really distance ourselves from the US commercially and security wise. Our only real threat is the US and it always have been . The last time the US was thinking of invading Canada was in the 1930s so not that long ago.

[LeeLau]

Not to be serious or anything

Imo Americans are generally nice people. Whoever they vote for that doesn't change much.

Same goes for Canucks.

Again imo I divorce the individuals from the collective

[LeeLau]

And here's a nice Canadian rock slab we can go ride. I think it turned out well

[tuco]

Ok my bad I responded to a stupid whataboutism with another even more out of date. Though I don't get your logic, American oil companies are owned by Canadian interests in a range 3-5% so they are no way responsible for the actions of those companies . Its up to the US gov't to regulate what they do offshore. Just in the same way Canadian oil companies that might have 30-40% US ownership are still Canadian companies. Though Canadian oil companies have overall trivial ownership outside of NA.

Hey man, I'm not defending shit!
The %age owned is quite irrelevant. Not sure I get your logic on that either
We all know(or should by now) that it's all about the shareholders.
BP is not an American company either.

[Ted Striker]

Seems that Trump wants to Annex Canada or at least try destroy the Canadian Econ to starve Canadians into submission.

Trump is a geriatric toddler distracted by shiny objects. He wanted Greenland at the outset of his first term. Plus, he's pissed that his mail-order hooker/wife gazes lustfully into Justin's eyes. But this is just schoolyard bully tactics. He wants the Gretzky rookie card, and thinks you should be happy with Roberto Luongo. And that's pretty much how it's going to go when Poilievre is PM.

The dummies are winning. Everyone is Brexiting.

[XXX-er]

Having a harsh attitude towards Americans in general because of who is elected president is pretty fucking lame. I think Trudeau is a complete tool but Canada and Canadians are generally pretty fucking excellent. I believe Trudeau went to Mara Lago to hit this head on and have a discussion with the Orange One. Trudeau fell into Trump's childish trap as one would expect but +1 for Trudeau for showing up and being ready to deal.

2 billion $ in trade crosses the border every day Canada probably still has the file where for every thing Trump trys to fuck with up narth there is something Canada can fuck with down thar which will then have some congressman complaining ... way too many dominos to fall

WTF was JT thinking cuz believe the last time " the deal" took 6 months ?

America is a republic, Canada is a constitutional monarchy and BTW they want free health care even/ especaily for the fat fucks AKA universal healthcare, universal doesn't even google anymore its just a theme park in America

Canada is banning more classes of guns as we argue

Who really wants Canada to be part of America ?

[Ted Striker]

The majority of Americans elected...

This isn't really true. In round numbers 75 million voted for Kamala, and 89 million didn't vote. Trump only got 77 million.

"The thing is, the media's trying to hold up this whole one-party, two-faction system by telling you that George Bush got this mandate with 54% of the vote.
And that just doesn't take into account the whole population of the country.
They say that 50.3%, in the media... they say 50.3% of the eligible population participated in the '88 election.
But I think the figure's a hell of a lot lower than that. You gotta consider prisoners. We got more people incarcerated in this country than any other country in Western history.
Noncitizens, the underage, the overage, people too old to get to the polls.
People out in rural areas. People who don't have addresses.
I mean, to be conservative, the figure's more like 35%.
So Bush got 54% of 35%. What's that, 18%?
Maybe 18% of the people in this country support him.
That's nothing. That's nothing. That's not a mandate."

"It just seems like one day it's gonna dawn on everybody that this large nonvoting majority has been winning every election for the past three decades.
And the people who win these elections are gonna be too ashamed... or better yet, too afraid to even take power at all."

[DougW]

Not to be serious or anything

Imo Americans are generally nice people. Whoever they vote for that doesn't change much.

Same goes for Canucks.

Again imo I divorce the individuals from the collective

Yes you are correct and I've always thought that way but the prospect of maybe more popularist protectionist administrations down the road and the unsophistication of most Americans means dire consequences to Canada. We have to have a good hard think who is friend and who is foe. This coming up on the 10th anniversary of Ethan J's death makes me think on where America has come to. I worked 7 years where all my client/projects were Americans. Intel, Bechtel etc. and I never had much of a feeling of difference. But for Americans to be so cavalier about the invasion of another country and that what annexation is "possession taken of a piece of land or a country, usually by force or without permission. " Even Bernie Saunders mused on annexation which is disrespectful.

[XXX-er]

A Canadian is just an un-armed American with health insurance

But seriously folks I've had to splain to someone who referred to Canadians as "North Amercan" that a Canadian would never refer to themselves as North American

They would be a Canadian

I supose Americans are could be North Amercians if they want ?

not sure what Mexicans think other than they don't want to be called "Murders Thieves and Rapists " ?

[XXX-er]

Isn't Canadia fighting the needful Indians at the moment?

AND please dude first nation's is the preferred nomenclature

actualy the big problem is that those fucking brits bricked it up when they forgot or refused or had run out of money to pay for the BC in BC by the time they got all the way across Canada which was required by the Royal Proclamation of 1763 eh ?

There IS good money in needfulness so our first nations brethren often rush off while stating

" gotta go man , land doesnt claim itself "

[garyfromterrace]

A couple of books by Richard Rhomer discuss this:
1) "Ultimatum" is the story of the U.S. invading Canada as written by a Canadian. More precisely, it is the buildup to the invasion, the haggling, set in the backdrop of the 1970s energy crisis as the embargo-facing US confronts resource-rich Canada.
2) “Exxoneration,” a sequel to “Ultimatum,” begins with the battle touched off by Canada's decision to reject the ultimatum of the American President, a tough?tasking Texan obviously patterned on former Treasury Secretary John B. Connally. It derives its name from the central action of the, plot — a Canadian?engineered take?over of the Exxon Corporation in 1981.

Spoiler alert - Canada kicks fucking ass! CA-NA-DA, CA-NA-DA, CA-NA-DA

As with anything coming out of the orange haired shit-gibbon's mouth, his statement regarding annexation is just more full on fucking bullshit.

[frorider]

Article 8 means that if US invades Canuckistan, US loses NATO membership & the rest of NATO would be compelled under Article 5 to attack the US & prolly would do so cheerfully if it meant aiming shit at Mar A Lago.

[LeeLau]

Yes you are correct and I've always thought that way but the prospect of maybe more popularist protectionist administrations down the road and the unsophistication of most Americans means dire consequences to Canada. We have to have a good hard think who is friend and who is foe. This coming up on the 10th anniversary of Ethan J's death makes me think on where America has come to. I worked 7 years where all my client/projects were Americans. Intel, Bechtel etc. and I never had much of a feeling of difference. But for Americans to be so cavalier about the invasion of another country and that what annexation is "possession taken of a piece of land or a country, usually by force or without permission. " Even Bernie Saunders mused on annexation which is disrespectful.

Doug , respectfully, I think it's all marketing and bluster.

[rideit]

With Trump, it likely means he is just flooding the zone with some outrageous bullshit, so no one scrutinizes some other nefarious bullshit he is doing.

[TahoeJ]

Apologies, we have a retarded President again. Feel free to ignore him. We're gonna be in a trade war with China at the same time so basically we're fucked and going into a recession soon.

China don't fucking play - they will probably buy some exports from both Canada and Mexico to support those countries as a double fuck you on top of their direct retaliatory measures.

[halliday]

2 billion $ in trade crosses the border every day Canada probably still has the file where for every thing Trump trys to fuck with up narth there is something Canada can fuck with down thar which will then have some congressman complaining ... way too many dominos to fall

WTF was JT thinking cuz believe the last time " the deal" took 6 months ?

America is a republic, Canada is a constitutional monarchy and BTW they want free health care even/ especaily for the fat fucks AKA universal healthcare, universal doesn't even google anymore its just a theme park in America

Canada is banning more classes of guns as we argue

Who really wants Canada to be part of America ?

I am a Canadian and American citizen. I have never lived full time in Canada due to schooling etc when I was a little guy. I chose to live in the United States so I am more culturally American than I am Canadian. Let's not lose sight of the fact that the United States, Mexico, and Canada need each other more than we realize. We all throw bullshit and shade at the other two but in reality the three countries together control most of the western hemisphere. Aside from the hatred of all of those under a certain elected leader (DougW Im looking at you), either Pierre JR, or Orange Man, we are all kind of Americans (Not United States Americans) and that is a good thing. Canada is not going to be annexed to the U.S., and the United States needs Canada, and Mexico's agriculture and manufacturing.

[XXX-er]

Apologies, we have a retarded President again. Feel free to ignore him. We're gonna be in a trade war with China at the same time so basically we're fucked and going into a recession soon.

China don't fucking play - they will probably buy some exports from both Canada and Mexico to support those countries as a double fuck you on top of their direct retaliatory measures.

well the reality is there is NOTHING as easy for Canada or for USA to deal with each other just thro it on a truck or down a pipline , tariffs are easy guess who pays them, it gets passed on to the USA and Canadian consumer

[liv2ski]

With Trump, it likely means he is just flooding the zone with some outrageous bullshit, so no one scrutinizes some other nefarious bullshit he is doing.

Pretty much this...

Apologies, we have a retarded President again. Feel free to ignore him. We're gonna be in a trade war with China at the same time so basically we're fucked and going into a recession soon.

China don't fucking play - they will probably buy some exports from both Canada and Mexico to support those countries as a double fuck you on top of their direct retaliatory measures.

And this. In the end this country will be a smoking shell of itself and Canada will still be laughing at us. I just need to win the lotto so I can move home. Real estate is expensive in the Great White North.

[DougW]

... Aside from the hatred of all of those under a certain elected leader (DougW Im looking at you).

hatred is a strong word as I have never been a knee jerk anti American and have on many instances defended America as it is hard to be in that position but..... I don't think most western Canadians understand the econ of southern Ont connected to the auto sector and how much harm would be done. Its all just in time manufacturing so the job losses would be almost immediate. I guess I'm a fair play kind of guy so find the black mail somewhat maddening. Canada gave up its branch plant manufacturing with NAFTA so there is no going back to manufacturing toothpaste etc. Maybe it will all work out with just drama and no real harm but I have never thought in my life that leaving NORAD was a possible thing to do.

[XXX-er]

I've heard the parts go back and forth 10 times across the border before they become a car

[bennymac]

The greater Toronto area is home to something like 20% of Canadians. It’s the 4th biggest city in North America after Mexico City, NYC, and Los Angeles.

[dunfree]

Doug , respectfully, I think it's all marketing and bluster.

there’s a bunch of deep stupid in the US right now, but the US is indubitably better off with an independent Canada & Mexico.