'Rona back in the hizzy

[Danno]

I would submit that the effects of acid are better than the vax, but I get your point.

[XXX-er]

No, it's the whole of partying with maggots. It starts with a shot and a bong, I implied it goes through some really blurry times when you're taking god knows what, and the night/morning ends with microdosing at waffle house.

Last I checked, the side effects of acid and waffle house are far worse than the vax.

The worst place to get sick is around schools or kids and by definition all your kids friends and their family ect so if you aren't around kids or schools you are less likely to pick up anything so while it would seem less healthy maybe the single party scene is not ?

but maybe you wana quit passing the reefer and that bottle of fireball, i know i don't anymore ?

in the thick of covid a local tree planting outfit properly quarantined before going into camp and operated a full planting season out in the middle of nowhere with ZERO sickness. So usually one person on a crew would be sick is pretty standard but beside no covid they had no cold of any kind no down time so lots of trees planted

[The AD]

This thread jinxed me. I started feeling a bit of a sore throat last night and I'm definitely sick today. I haven't taken a COVID test yet, though.

[gravitylover]

The worst place to get sick is around schools or kids and by definition all your kids friends and their family ect so if you aren't around kids or schools you are less likely to pick up anything so while it would seem less healthy maybe the single party scene is not ?

but maybe you wana quit passing the reefer and that bottle of fireball, i know i don't anymore ?

My daughter is teaching a self contained class in an elementary school this year. I figure this is when I'll finally catch covid after avoiding it for the last 4 1/2 years *sigh* I haven't smoked with anyone since winter 2020, a few times when someone sees me grabbing a quick hit they've asked to share and when I turned them down they seem offended especially at concerts or social events. Some understand when I explain why but most don't. Oh well.

[XXX-er]

well up here its legal so MJ is all over the place, walk out in fron tof a bar and everybody is goind to the magic kingdom, the smoke was bad on my pipes so I was eating the gummies but after taking up micro dosing psysilicybin I stopped the MJ, I'm now out of micro dose caps and don't seem to care

[riser4]

This thread jinxed me. I started feeling a bit of a sore throat last night and I'm definitely sick today. I haven't taken a COVID test yet, though.

Sort of a sore throat today. Sinuses slightly clogged and leaking the post nasal which I hope is why the throat is sore. Took a covid pregnancy test, negative, not preggers, need to rinse, lather, repeat on Friday. I'll probably skip my exercise class tomorrow that is all old people and do the YouTube recording from home. Bummer because I like the in person version much more better.

Could seasonal flu or pneumonia vaccine cause cold symptoms? I had both shots on Monday.

[Trackhead]

For those that haven’t had Covid:

1. I’m not being a dick, but you’ve had it. Probably just super mild illness. I’ve had it three times, kid the same. Zero home precautions, my wife has “never had it”. Fucking impossible given our little kid is a cough/snot machine. How could someone not have had it. Aren’t there some seroprevalence studies out there? Too lazy to look.

2. If someone is truly immune naive it would be interesting to see how current covid would affect them if unvaccinated. Is it mild now because it’s less virulent, or because everyone is vaccinated+had exposure?

Edit:96% seroprevalence in 2022 per CDC. So it’s a pretty darn rare unicorn to have not had covid.

[Conundrum]

I think "never tested positive" is a better way to say it. But only if you actually test when experiencing any type of symptoms...not if you just don't test. I've never tested positive. Wife has had it twice. Once bad, once moderate. Slept in the same bed with her and tested when she did over the course of her illness. No +. Went on a seven day river trip with 19 others sharing a river kitchen. Mass spreader event so to speak. Two of us didn't test positive. Had the initial three vaxes, nothing since.

[Mofro261]

There is also some evidence that the immunity drop when efficacy wanes, can drop lower than you would be if you had never taken the vax, albeit temporarily.

Immunity to what?

Would you like to explain what's known about memory b cell development after encounter with antigen for us to help prove your point?

[MultiVerse]

If someone is truly immune naive it would be interesting to see how current covid would affect them if unvaccinated. Is it mild now because it’s less virulent, or because everyone is vaccinated+had exposure?

The answer is both. The evidence clearly shows SARS-CoV-2 evolved into a less virulent more transmissible organism. There is also better immune response to the worst outcomes in the community at large.

[XXX-er]

I ran into a large group of WW paddling buddies who were running rivers & camping, so they all looked really happening really strong, ran into them a week later and they all looked like shit, they were all sick cuz some one had introduced a bug into the camp kitchen

the local ski hut we put in running water into as oposed to the walking water with the milk pails, the cook told me the sickness incidence went way down without the dipper & pails

[Trackhead]

The answer is both. The evidence clearly shows SARS-CoV-2 evolved into a less virulent more transmissible organism. There is also better immune response to the worst outcomes in the community at large.

Right, agreed. But it's hard to gauge true severity in a community that already had 95+% seroprevalance either from vax or exposure or both prior to Omicron.

I mean clinically, you could see it was less virulent. I was doing a lot of lung ultrasounds in the first two years of covid, horrible shit, even in "mild", non-hypoxic patients showing pathology on ultrasound. Then Omicron, and all of a sudden, ultrasound of lungs looked very different. Like night and day different.

[k2skier112]

Not much has changed. It ebbs/flows but still rarely puts people in the hospital. Only people I've seen admitted with it in last couple years are those immunocompromised. A leukemia patient, a 90+ yr old, etc.

Just sayin'...the more you know

The impact of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, has changed dramatically since 2020.

Despite periodic episodes of high transmission, severe outcomes from COVID-19 have substantially decreased since 2020 and 2021.

The decline in deaths associated with COVID-19 is even more dramatic than the drop in hospitalizations. In 2021, over 450,000 deaths among Americans were associated with COVID-19, while in 2023, that number fell to roughly 75,000. This represents an 83% decrease since early in the pandemic. That said, the number of COVID-19-related deaths is still substantial, impacting families across the country. Based on preliminary data, COVID-19 still ranks as the 10th most common cause of death in the U.S. for 2023, a drop from 3rd in 2020 and 2021 and 4th in 2022.
https://www.cdc.gov/ncird/whats-new/...-covid-19.html

Me and the wife got it 2 weeks ago. So did 86yo FIL
We still have long covid effects

[k2skier112]

For those that haven’t had Covid:

1. I’m not being a dick, but you’ve had it. Probably just super mild illness.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/flu-vs-covid19.htm
You cannot tell the difference between flu and COVID-19 by the symptoms alone because they have some of the same signs and symptoms. Specific testing is needed to tell what the illness is and to confirm a diagnosis.

[Not DJSapp]

The worst place to get sick is around schools or kids and by definition all your kids friends and their family ect so if you aren't around kids or schools you are less likely to pick up anything so while it would seem less healthy maybe the single party scene is not ?

but maybe you wana quit passing the reefer and that bottle of fireball, i know i don't anymore ?

in the thick of covid a local tree planting outfit properly quarantined before going into camp and operated a full planting season out in the middle of nowhere with ZERO sickness. So usually one person on a crew would be sick is pretty standard but beside no covid they had no cold of any kind no down time so lots of trees planted

You missed my point entirely. I was talking to the question of what's in the vax. How much do you trust your source of whatever it is you're about to ingest at that party? You prefer your mystery drug cocktail from a deal you just met because he didn't seem sketchy over something that has some level of peer reviewed science behind it?

Maybe I need to sit down and shut up. A good friend of mine just lost his son over the weekend due to a suspected drug OD. Probably fent. Another good friend just found out her brother has been on H for the last 7 years and is desperate for help. A lot of folks act all high and mighty when it comes to vax purity, and then go put whatever lands in their hand at the party into their system no questions asked.

The line of questioning and hand wringing behind 'is the vax effective, for how long, do I really need it, is it just hotdog water' is idiotic if you're not asking 'is my weed cut with fent/pcp, what is my microdose really made of, what the hell is kratom actually'. Yeah, the vax isn't 100% perfect, but it's far from the worst think any of us have ever willingly done to ourselves.

[XXX-er]

For those that haven’t had Covid:

1. I’m not being a dick, but you’ve had it. Probably just super mild illness. I’ve had it three times, kid the same. Zero home precautions, my wife has “never had it”. Fucking impossible given our little kid is a cough/snot machine. How could someone not have had it. Aren’t there some seroprevalence studies out there? Too lazy to look.

2. If someone is truly immune naive it would be interesting to see how current covid would affect them if unvaccinated. Is it mild now because it’s less virulent, or because everyone is vaccinated+had exposure?

Edit:96% seroprevalence in 2022 per CDC. So it’s a pretty darn rare unicorn to have not had covid.

could someone have also just been a carrier so to speak carrying it but not getting covid ?

[k2skier112]

could someone have also just been a carrier so to speak carrying it but not getting covid ?

Yes

Asymptomatic COVID-19 is quite common. Scientists think that at least 20% of all people infected with COVID-19 never have symptoms.


https://health.clevelandclinic.org/asymptomatic-covid

[XXX-er]

You missed my point entirely. I was talking to the question of what's in the vax. How much do you trust your source of whatever it is you're about to ingest at that party? You prefer your mystery drug cocktail from a deal you just met because he didn't seem sketchy over something that has some level of peer reviewed science behind it?

Maybe I need to sit down and shut up. A good friend of mine just lost his son over the weekend due to a suspected drug OD. Probably fent. Another good friend just found out her brother has been on H for the last 7 years and is desperate for help. A lot of folks act all high and mighty when it comes to vax purity, and then go put whatever lands in their hand at the party into their system no questions asked.

The line of questioning and hand wringing behind 'is the vax effective, for how long, do I really need it, is it just hotdog water' is idiotic if you're not asking 'is my weed cut with fent/pcp, what is my microdose really made of, what the hell is kratom actually'. Yeah, the vax isn't 100% perfect, but it's far from the worst think any of us have ever willingly done to ourselves.

huh ? I may wonder if its the right vax at the right time but I am pretty sure the Vax I been getting under gov supervision at safeway is real covid vax,

the MJ I buy from the anesthetist's kid ( really) at the really well appointed MJ store which even has a government tax stamp is just MJ

I don't see how you can talk about vax purity in the same post as fentynal ?

And actualy anestist bro tells me they used fentynal in medicine but he knew what he was doing

people take all kinds of things at a party and I'm suggesting you could avoid all kinds of germs by not sharing the bottle or the reefer which they do in the planting camps but maybe you want to quit sharing drugs if you don't know what you are taking ?




edit: and btw micro dosing psylisiben DOES NOT get you high because the standard 150-200mg microdose cap is 1/5th to 1/10 of a rec dose, so the idea is TO NOT get high, the idea is that small amounts of psilipyben or LSD might have desirable therapeutic effects in the longer term like stopping drinking or stopping MJ or less anxiety or wtf

and even if it did get you high why would you want to take it at a waffle house in the AM cuz now you arent going to sleep for a long time ??

I suggest the non-micro dose an hr before you want it to kick in on party night or a large non micro dose at the waffle house if you wana stay up all day

but i'm not that smart

[bodywhomper]

Edit:96% seroprevalence in 2022 per CDC. So it’s a pretty darn rare unicorn to have not had covid.

I think the 2022 seroprevalence from cdc measured inflection and/or vax.

Understanding the point, though, there have been large surges in infections over the past few years.

[gravitylover]

The only times I've had anything similar, cold, etc. I've tested negative. There was one time in Feb 2020 that the wife and I had a cold at the same time but that was before testing, we thought "maybe..." later on but I don't think it was COVID. She tested positive once but as soon as she felt weird I headed for the couch and never even had mild cold symptoms. I got vaxxed twice early on but not since. I still think I haven't had it. *shrug*

[skaredshtles]

<snip> I still think I haven't had it. *shrug*

Very unlikely. See Post 7123727

[riser4]

I never tested positive. Ever. Not even this morning . The one time I most definitely had the 'rona, testing was not available yet. Look at my fever posts in the ratflu thread from the first week of March, 2020. I've been sick since then a few times and never, ever tested positive. Whatever serum test I got done unfortunately was after my first set of vaccines. And my doctor wouldn't order both of the required tests. Didn't see the utility.

[basinbeater]

Man I felt like shit all day today. Can't wait to put it behind me.

[ötzi]

The first time I had covid I didn't even know it. It was spring, allergies had been killing me for weeks, I figured they were just getting worse. Finally I stopped resisting taking claritin and I felt much better when I took it. Still sick but way better. Then the next day after I took the Claritin my wife felt shitty and tested positive, so I toook a test and it was positive. Just covid was a lot better than covid and allergies.

[Meconium]

Has anyone had hot sex when sick with COVID? Like night sweats hot.