Euro Grumble 2025 - A Mag Shindig 3/9 - 3/16

[Djongo Unchained]

Get your Rega card folks:
https://www.rega.ch/en/rega-patron/b...er-a-patronage .

This card insures that if you wreck off piste (even a little ways) you can get transportation to a hospital.

Since we ski mostly off the marked runs, it's a very wise investment.

Djongo in his element:

As soon as I pushed up to that hump and slow rolled past, I thot, well, ya fucked that up. Shoulda skied up and over that focker.


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Welcome to the group Chunder. Where ya from and whatnot?

[byates1]

This is rad. Nice work radsters.

[Mr. Mike]

I'm in. Bought plane tix in/out of Milan. Will do week 1 with the wife in the Dolomites then will meet you guys for week 2. Probably into Mt. Lodge on the 8th then back to Milan for flight home on 16th.

[Djongo Unchained]

^^^

Excellent news MM! last year was too brief a visit and no Mrs. Mike.

Ski ya soon.

[Buster Highmen]

Awright Mr. Mike.

3 of Clan Highmen have tickets in/out of ZRH, although Ma Highmen requested a refundable since her knee is still wonky. Son and Pa are in fer shure.

The infamous private Tgom cable car across the valley from Disentis and Dieni with Dieni lifts just visible behind the lower left trees.



https://www.disentis-sedrun.ch/de/luftseilbahn-tgom

[skaredshtles]

Is it time to start buying airline tickets? Hmmm... might need to get my shit together.

[carvehard]

I'm in.

Awesome. I can't wait to ski with you again for another edition of this powdery tradition.

[subtle plague]

Is it time to start buying airline tickets? Hmmm... might need to get my shit together.

Yaasss yaas?

[Buster Highmen]

Can't wait



Moar Felsental



The Tgoms tram seen from the Rueras train station:

[Djongo Unchained]

Andermatt creek...



Disentis top lift station.

[k2skier112]

I'm gonna do a week before Mt Lodge
Thinking of St Moritz, or...?

Anyone else going solo that want to hit up some other place first?

Bought my airfare, it's afishul!

Any insider intel on St Moritz?

[Buster Highmen]

I'll be swanning around with my family a bit before the grumble, but here's some info on St. Mo:

There are 4 different ski areas: Corvatsch, Corviglia, Diavolezza, Lagalb where only the last 2 are sort of ski between. Other than that, getting to one another requires trains and busses, which are excellent and included in your hotel fees. Each is huDge and it's not worth hopping between in the same day except Diavolezza/Lagalb. Another exception is the Tour de St. Moritz involving skiing the "black slope" from Gland d'Alva on Corvatsch down to the Signal cable car which gets you up on Corviglia. If staying on the St. Mo/Celerina/Samedan side, you can ski from Corvatsch to those locales.

Corvatsch is the biggest with village bases Sils and Surlej/Silvaplana. Sils is the furthest removed from the other ski areas, but they do have a few less expensive hotels.

This map kind of distorts the distance from Surlej/Silvaplana to Diavolezza/Lagalb. The sidecountry run off the top of Corvatsch down to Pontresina is amazing, but has a long, long flat out to Pontresina proper. One can take a horse drawn buggy from the Roseg Gletscher hotel down to Pontresina for 25chf.



Corviglia is sort of "the" St. Moritz area with bases in St Moritz Bad (Signal cable car) or St Moritz proper (the funicular from "downtown" St. Moritz) or Celerina (Marguns gondola). One can also ski all the way over to Samedan, arguably the best transport hub in the valley, but Samedan has no lifts back up to Corviglia. Celerina and Samedan have the least expensive hotels in the area with the https://www.innlodge.ch/en/, and https://www.saluver.ch/, each of which are a ways from the Marguns gondy, but there's busses. In Samedan, which is a rail hub, there's https://laagers.ch/de/ .



There are lots of apartments to rent, but they do not include the half price lift tickets. Staying in a hotel, you lift ticket to all 4 major areas including the busses and trains is around $50US. The sleeper about St. Mo is the amount of relatively easy access nutblowing sidecountry

Train schedules:
https://www.sbb.ch/en/buying/pages/f...fahrplan.xhtml

Bus transit:
https://engadinbus.ch/

St. Moritz Bad has a few good deals down by the Signal cable car as well as Berghotel Randolins which is up on the slopes above St. Mo Bad but kind of isolated,

Downtown St. Mo is expensive. It's kind of cool with lots of wealth glamming around and a swell place to blow money. There is an inexpensive kebab/pizza spot there Pizzaway. Chesa Langaard is the least expensive hotel there but not recommended.

I liked Celerina as a base, with direct access to Corviglia and good bus access to Corvatsch and bus or rail access to Diavolezza/Lagalb up towards the Bernina pass.


Be sure to take the time to go ski Lagalb, a steep 2600 vertical foot hemisphere served by 1 tram that cycles every 10 minutes. Quadburn. If there's enough base, there's a 10 mile run from the top of Diavolezza down to Morteratsch train station/hotel. It's a great spot but isolated.

St. Mo is awesome if there's a series of "southern" storms. But it can be dry. If it looks like the northern storms are happeneing, consider the JungFrau area where I'd recommend either the https://www.hotelregina.ch/rooms/?lang=en in Wengen, about 1000 feet from the Wengen train station, or https://www.alpenblick-muerren.ch/ just down the way from the Murren train station.

[k2skier112]

Thanks!

[byates1]

Always impressed w Buster's extensive knowledge of euro. Wow

[carvehard]

Always impressed w Buster's extensive knowledge of euro. Wow

The man is a proper encyclopedia of skiing.

[singlecross]

I’m in! Just communicated with vendul and booked the month of March at Mt. Lodge. Epic Pass in hand which covers my lifts in the area for the month. Will shop plane tix for best rates soon. Stoked to get back to Switzerland… it’s been decades since Summer ski camps in Saas Fee.

[sillybunt2]

I'm considering this based on the history of glowing reports and photographic evidence of amazing terrain and big grins. A couple quick questions: How does this years cost compare to previous years? Will there be a couple days of guided off-piste requiring skinning in the mix?

[Buster Highmen]

I'm considering this based on the history of glowing reports and photographic evidence of amazing terrain and big grins. A couple quick questions: How does this years cost compare to previous years? Will there be a couple days of guided off-piste requiring skinning in the mix?

Flight cost: https://www.kayak.com/ or https://www.google.com/travel/flights
Train costs: https://www.sbb.ch/en/buying/pages/f...fahrplan.xhtml Plan your own itinerary.
Hotel costs: info@mt-lodge.com or pm vendul here. Mention the 2025 Grumble.

The SkiArena half price card is worth it: https://www.andermatt-sedrun-disenti...alf-price-pass This way your lift ticket operates through an app on your phone and updates your rfid lift pass (have to pick that up at a local kiosk).

Regarding touring, again, ask vendul and solicit here. Normally there is a day or two of touring, but we operate amoeba like with subgroups splitting off and doing their own thing. Some people go do the Tgoms tram and over to the Oberalp Pass or Andermatt, a fairly big day tour on their own. Some people group up with a vendul provided guide and skin an hour or two out of either Disentis or Andermatt. If the weather lines up and there's a guide around who knows it, the Oberalpstock has been done, which is a classic huDge descent with only a couple hours of easy skinning.

The day to day is not that organized, people feel out the situation and group up with like intended folks. Most of us just do our own thang. I have detached from doing any significant organizing, but I can supply links to answer questions.

[Djongo Unchained]

I asked Vendul about lodge costs and he said it would be the same as last year:

Including a room, nice full continental breakfast, multi course dinner and a shuttle for a day trip to another ski area or event.
Per night PP:
$160 - Single occupancy
$100 - Double
$ 90 - Triple room
$ 80 - Family room-2adjoined rooms, 1dbl/2sngl beds

Good to see mags showing some interest. I'm looking forward to it, skiing and partying with friends. Been working a lot and squirreling away some nuts for this trip.

[Buster Highmen]

Shroom Splugenen:




Swerve onsite above Disentis:



lindenle as santa at Splugen:



Moar lindenle:

[bw_wp_hedonism]

I’m hoping to be around the Klosters area if anyone is passing through before or after. I’m effectively between jobs, so it will depend a bit on what comes next.


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[Buster Highmen]

We hope to see you en route, bw_wp_hedonism, check your PMs and signal.

Also, just found out that the Schilhorn cable car above Murren is down until March 2025 at best. Without that lift, I'd skip the Jungfrau region.

[bw_wp_hedonism]

We hope to see you en route, bw_wp_hedonism, check your PMs and signal.

Also, just found out that the Schilhorn cable car above Murren is down until March 2025 at best. Without that lift, I'd skip the Jungfrau region.

Looking forward to it!

[vendul]

For those of you who are coming to the lodge and have not purchased a Half Price Abo nor have Epic Pass, can get slightly cheaper ski tickets directly at the Lodge.

[cat in january]

Thank you for making it easier and more affordable