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    Electric Grills - for the fire insurance fallout

    Per HOA - no more gas/charcoal/pellet/propane grills. America is lost, thank you climate change, etc.

    Anyone here pull the trigger on an electric grill? It looks like things have gotten better in the last couple of years on the electric side. Am I better off just cooking with an air fryer, or can an electric grill make food any different?

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    "If the road You followed brought you to this,of what use was the road"?

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    for shame.
    swing your fucking sword.

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    For ease, and getting away from gas, (I'm also considering a pellet grill) an electric grill looks tempting. Getting protein hot can be done with any method and turn out ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hott Butt Mud View Post
    Per HOA - no more gas/charcoal/pellet/propane grills. America is lost, thank you climate change, etc.

    Anyone here pull the trigger on an electric grill? It looks like things have gotten better in the last couple of years on the electric side. Am I better off just cooking with an air fryer, or can an electric grill make food any different?
    People are stupid and can't be trusted.

    "Nearly a year after a massive fire that displaced dozens of people and destroyed much of the Limelight Condominiums in Ketchum, plans to rebuild the structure—this time, with increased safety measures, such as fire sprinklers—have been approved by the city.

    A barbecue grill with a recently replaced propane hose was the source of a fire that burned down the complex along Warm Springs Road last fall, according to a report from the Idaho State Fire Marshal’s Office."


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    @HBM - where is this? What kind of dwellings?

    Is it ok to have a smoker with an electric element?

    As far as ease, my gas grill is sourced from the same tank as stove/oven and supplemental heat. Guy comes around every six months to top off the tank.

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    No actual experience with these.

    Weber makes one - I’d start there.

    I’d pay attention to the electrical specs.

    Max you’re going to get out of a 15amp plug is 1500watts. Which will provide no where near the same BTU output as a ng/prop/charcoal grill…

    There’s a reason electrical ovens / cooktops / ranges are all 240v/30a+…

    If you have a 20amp circuit maybe you can find a grill that’s actually 20amp…

    A portable induction cooktop and a cast iron grill pan is an option…


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    I'm not clear on why the ban. Your title suggest it's for fire safety. Your post suggest it's for reducing climate change. Which is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    I'm not clear on why the ban. Your title suggest it's for fire safety. Your post suggest it's for reducing climate change. Which is it?

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    Porque no entiendo nada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    Porque no entiendo nada.



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    Cook over an open bonfire in the front yard?
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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    I'm not clear on why the ban. Your title suggest it's for fire safety. Your post suggest it's for reducing climate change. Which is it?
    I bet it’s driven by a pricing adjustment the HOA gets on insurance for implementing the ban. Which would be based on fire loss management. HOA is probably trying to adjust to recent insurance premium hikes that would be partially related to increased number of losses due to climate change. So yeah - not far fetched to say BOTH.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cisco Kid View Post
    Cook over an open bonfire in the front yard?
    Not technically charcoal yet. I like the way you think.
    I am so glad I have no HOA. I would ruin their lives and vise-versa.

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    HOA's all over Colorado (and presumably the western states) have been dealing with massive increases in insurance. Our HOA has decided to take the large insurance discount that was offered if we do not allow gas/propane/charcoal/fire grills on balconies/patios. We can only have electric.
    Of course, you can walk out in to the middle of the street with your propane grill, then you can use it, then put it in your garage when done.

    The increase in insurance is a result of wildfires - most likely the recent front range fires.
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    In a lot of cases, the HOA doesn't have a choice if the municipality follows IBC codes, which many do. IBC codes require 10' from any open flame source to a combustible surface. Most of the condos around here allowed gas grills 10 years ago, but slowly began to realize they couldn't. A couple of condos still allow it when the surfaces are stucco or concrete.

    This happened at my old condo and we went electric. It was OK in summer, but hard to get enough BTUs in the winter. I was able to use my real grill for a while at my current place until they got called out too. This time, I went to a Coleman travel grill with a 2.5# propane tank, which is allowed for some reason. It's better than my electric was, for sure. I still don't understand why the little grill is allowed- if anything it seems like it would be more likely to tip over and start a fire than my sweet old big one. Oh well.

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    Seems like a portable grill in the driveway is an easy solution.

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    Should probably be in the stoner things done thread but I once accidentally left a (ng) gas grill going for a month. Left the grill going to burn the schmutz off after cooking, forgot to go back and turn it off, left town the next morning. Imagine my surprise the next time I went to use it. On the bright side it was clean as a whistle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ötzi View Post
    Should probably be in the stoner things done thread but I once accidentally left a (ng) gas grill going for a month. Left the grill going to burn the schmutz off after cooking, forgot to go back and turn it off, left town the next morning. Imagine my surprise the next time I went to use it. On the bright side it was clean as a whistle.
    exactly why I don't hook my grill up to the NG so what did the gas bill look like ?

    but how are you with rice cookers ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ötzi View Post
    Should probably be in the stoner things done thread but I once accidentally left a (ng) gas grill going for a month. Left the grill going to burn the schmutz off after cooking, forgot to go back and turn it off, left town the next morning. Imagine my surprise the next time I went to use it. On the bright side it was clean as a whistle.
    you are singlehandedly responsible for at least a foot of sealevel rise.
    swing your fucking sword.

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    Bill wasn't as bad as I was expecting, it used about $175-$200 or so. Like about $2 million Canadian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stealurface831 View Post
    you are singlehandedly responsible for at least a foot of sealevel rise.

    No doubt. When I walked up to it and it was on I was like, some asshole's been using my grill!

    I was right. It was me.

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    Truckee bans wood and charcoal in fire season. Pellets and propane OK (I use pellets instead of chunks in my propane smoker; technically in compliance I think.) No outdoor flames of any kind on red flag days. STR's can't have wood or charcoal any time of year and propane grills have to be 10 feet from combustible surfaces, although that doesn't seem to apply to decks, at least as it's enforced.

    Grease fires seem to be OK, at least as long as your neighbor is quick with a fire extinguisher. Finishing a smoked brisket on a hot grill turns out to be a bad idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post

    Grease fires seem to be OK, at least as long as your neighbor is quick with a fire extinguisher. Finishing a smoked brisket on a hot grill turns out to be a bad idea.
    Stoner moves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickwm21 View Post
    No actual experience with these.

    Weber makes one - I’d start there.

    I’d pay attention to the electrical specs.

    Max you’re going to get out of a 15amp plug is 1500watts. Which will provide no where near the same BTU output as a ng/prop/charcoal grill…

    There’s a reason electrical ovens / cooktops / ranges are all 240v/30a+…

    If you have a 20amp circuit maybe you can find a grill that’s actually 20amp…

    A portable induction cooktop and a cast iron grill pan is an option…


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    might want to be careful with them even at rated power using them for long periods.

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