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  1. #26
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    ^ four things

    -I use a wireless backup camera on my TT with monitor on display at all times, so really it’s an observation camera that allows me to see how well it’s handling down the road

    -add if possible/upgrade/replace old shocks on the TT and there is way less wobble and pots and pans stay more in place

    -1Up has upgrade kits to convert a regular QuickRack tray into a super duty QuickRack tray, there is an extra steel bar that goes under the body of the center plate and a longer wheel tray bolt that reduces flex of the tray

    -on that note I’m sure the original design criteria to make the trays foldable compromises the rigidity somewhat. I bet the non folding variations probably are more robust? I have not been keeping up with new variations from 1Up or Quikr stuff. When I had an apartment I appreciated the folding capability but now that I have a house with large storage I don’t care about that at all.
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  2. #27
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    One time, a bike popped out of my 1Up roof tray. The adjustment lever that day was positioned to hit the vehicle's roof crossbar, and it did, at 80 mph. The front wheel popped out, the bike scraped down the side of the car going 80, the rear wheel held in the rack. I pulled onto the shoulder ASAP and fixed it. I doublecheck the lever position every time now. It was user error, I am thankful it wasn't worse.

    Another time, same 1Up roof tray on my old Subaru Legacy, I slow speed pulled into my garage with a bike on the roof. Stopped immediately on contact. Garage structure - fine. Bike frame rims - fine. 1Up - fine. Subie roof - caved in at 4 corners of crossbars.

    I've used the roof tray for 15+ years. Lifting a 30-pound awkward mtb above my head onto an SUV roof is harder than the other roof tray that removes a front wheel, but NBD. I also have the 2-bike hitch receiver. Except for a stupid user (that may have struggled with sobriety during each incident), they're the best and I'm a big fan.

  3. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by slcdawg View Post
    Good info for sure. I decided to replace the roof racks because of the wobble and it's a little awkward to take bikes off. I 'think' I'm convinced the bike won't fall out but I don't want to stress about it. I prefer the sidearm/brass knuckle design for roof racks - there is no wobble from my experience.

    I'm keeping the hitch rack and will try the dry lube to get rid of the creak. I wish I had known Rocky Mounts makes a couple of hitch racks (a 1up copy and a brass knuckle version), with build in swing arms. That would be helpful with a hatchback and much cheaper than buying separately. The Guiderail is a 1up knockoff but looks like they have made some improvements including easier to remove bikes and the handle to change the position.
    I've had a Backstage with the built in swingaway for about 3 years now. The swing away component is fine and feels plenty burly. The rack piece feels a little flimsy. It's always held my bikes in place just fine but I've snapped one of the plastic handles, it's got a number of points of surface rust and feels like it likely only has two more years before it really starts showing its age.

    Last summer I back the outside corner of the swing away into a telephone pole and bent it a few degrees. I've been weighing replacing the sway away portion for ~$300 vs just biting the bullet and getting either an Afterparty (Rocky Mounts 1up knockoff with integrated swingaway) or a swingout + 1up combo.

  4. #29
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    I just want to say that it is crazy that I can buy a motorcycle rack that holds 600 lbs for $150 but a mtb rack costs so much more than that.

  5. #30
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    1up - Not all they're cracked up to be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Name Redacted View Post
    I just want to say that it is crazy that I can buy a motorcycle rack that holds 600 lbs for $150 but a mtb rack costs so much more than that.
    That motorcycle rack is just a tray bolted to a stick of 2” HSS….

    There are similar cheap / simple bike racks that cost $100.

    But yes - fully featured MTB racks are overpriced.


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  6. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumbest Known Time View Post
    I've had a Backstage with the built in swingaway for about 3 years now. The swing away component is fine and feels plenty burly. The rack piece feels a little flimsy. It's always held my bikes in place just fine but I've snapped one of the plastic handles, it's got a number of points of surface rust and feels like it likely only has two more years before it really starts showing its age.

    Last summer I back the outside corner of the swing away into a telephone pole and bent it a few degrees. I've been weighing replacing the sway away portion for ~$300 vs just biting the bullet and getting either an Afterparty (Rocky Mounts 1up knockoff with integrated swingaway) or a swingout + 1up combo.
    I'm going on 5 years with my backstage now. Lots of bumpy dirt roads and it sits in the sun for a good chunk of the summer. It does have a lot of plastic pieces but so far so good. I've broken a few handles, but that's a ground clearance issue and replacements are cheap.

  7. #32
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    What’s the going rate for a 1 1/4” single 1up rack?
    I’ve got to stop hanging onto stuff I’m not using.


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    However many are in a shit ton.

  8. #33
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    Does anyone who has been rear ended have any parts left over from a totaled 1up (in black)?

    I'm trying to rebuild my totaled 2-bike into a functional 1 bike, but there are a few parts I still need: A non-bent passenger side tray (with or without arm), the metal piece that both trays bolt on to and pivot., and either the entire frame that pivots around the piece that goes into the receiver, or just the 2 side bars and I can swap them in.

    If I can get that to work, I'll have available a good driver-side tray and a bunch of other random parts.

  9. #34
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    I agree and am somewhat of a pariah for saying it: OneUp trays suck.

    Every now and then my bolt for the arm thing will tighten up mid use so the whole thing gets stuck up there until I can find pliers to deal with the situation. In the right spot my swing arm thing arm hits my derailleur cage. I did routinely abusive things to my T2 and had nary a complaint. The OneUp is significantly more expensive, and I have no doubts it would break if I abused it.

  10. #35
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    I’ve been using 1Up for 10 years, usually I check the crank arm clocking when I have multiple bikes on the rack … ooooooops. This one was especially bad because it was on the back of the RV for a long as time, over some pretty rough roads.
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  11. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Name Redacted View Post
    I just want to say that it is crazy that I can buy a motorcycle rack that holds 600 lbs for $150 but a mtb rack costs so much more than that.
    That moto rack will work just fine with a MTB if you're willing to take a few extra seconds and strap it down like you do a moto. When self shuttling with a multiple riders I've used my moto carrier plenty of times.

  12. #37
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    Lee's MTB on a versahaul



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  13. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by evdog View Post
    That moto rack will work just fine with a MTB if you're willing to take a few extra seconds and strap it down like you do a moto. When self shuttling with a multiple riders I've used my moto carrier plenty of times.
    Yeah, I've done it. I also have put the mtb on the loading tray w/ the dirt bike on the rack. It works but driving rough roads it gets a little too much movement.

  14. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumbest Known Time View Post
    I've had a Backstage with the built in swingaway for about 3 years now. The swing away component is fine and feels plenty burly. The rack piece feels a little flimsy. It's always held my bikes in place just fine but I've snapped one of the plastic handles, it's got a number of points of surface rust and feels like it likely only has two more years before it really starts showing its age.

    Last summer I back the outside corner of the swing away into a telephone pole and bent it a few degrees. I've been weighing replacing the sway away portion for ~$300 vs just biting the bullet and getting either an Afterparty (Rocky Mounts 1up knockoff with integrated swingaway) or a swingout + 1up combo.
    I love my afterparty rack, way more than I did my 1up that I had for years. The integrated swingarm has it not as far out as a 1up w/yakima (or other brand) swingarm adapter did. I also like that the two trays are a couple inches further apart from each other than the 1up, no more pedals hitting bike frames on rough roads. The mechanism to open the arms on the trays is much more intuitive as well, slides much smoother and more secure.

  15. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by bamboocoreONLY View Post
    I love my afterparty rack, way more than I did my 1up that I had for years. The integrated swingarm has it not as far out as a 1up w/yakima (or other brand) swingarm adapter did. I also like that the two trays are a couple inches further apart from each other than the 1up, no more pedals hitting bike frames on rough roads. The mechanism to open the arms on the trays is much more intuitive as well, slides much smoother and more secure.
    Holy shit is that rack $1,400?? That would sting if stolen, but maybe it’s so heavy that no one would bother? I have one car that a swing-away would be useful on but haven’t gone for it.

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