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  1. #251
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    Quote Originally Posted by smmokan View Post
    To cover up the doping? It's all about the aero gains, nutritional advances and training regimens... definitely nothing illegal.
    They gotta do all the legal stuff just to stay even with other teams - it's table stakes. The doping is how you find that extra time.

    Having said that, I'll be bummed out if Tadej or Jonas are doping

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    Quote Originally Posted by huckbucket View Post
    Motors that don't rely on magnets. It's a thing.
    Either my sarcasm meter is badly broken,
    Or
    You have no clue about electromagnetic fields and their creation

    Maybe you can show me an electric motor that does not require the flow of electrons…

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    Quote Originally Posted by TBS View Post
    Either my sarcasm meter is badly broken,
    Or
    You have no clue about electromagnetic fields and their creation

    Maybe you can show me an electric motor that does not require the flow of electrons…
    I assume he meant that with no magnets there would be no field if the motor wasn’t running, which it wouldn’t be when doing the inspection.

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    Anyway
    Yeah Pogi’s series of intervals to leapfrog each guy in the lead group was stunning.

    And yeah, I don’t think he is taking banned substances. Chris Horner won the Vuelta in 2013 using snickers bars and coke for fuel - and McDonalds. Nutritional science has come a long way.

    And yeah, Teejay is irritating. So is Brookwalter. Bring back Horner and CVV in the studio. Or one in the studio and one on the moto.

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    Horner was more annoying than either of those two, although Teejay is a close second. It was like his pay was based on how many guys he called a knucklehead.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TBS View Post
    Anyway
    Yeah Pogi’s series of intervals to leapfrog each guy in the lead group was stunning.

    And yeah, I don’t think he is taking banned substances. Chris Horner won the Vuelta in 2013 using snickers bars and coke for fuel - and McDonalds. Nutritional science has come a long way.

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    I am longer leaning towards cleaner than not clean. there are too many testing loops holes. ‘That you could drive a Mack truck through’. Microdosing hormones. Timing of doping, new drugs. Plus the money involved from top to bottom.

    Tadej is certainly a freak, but so was lance. Freak plus high tech doping equals 7 tour de France’s and passing dudes uphill like they are going backwards. Today was just so insane it csnt be anywhere close to normal.

    Anyway I’m over it. Still fun to watch.




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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong View Post
    I assume he meant that with no magnets there would be no field if the motor wasn’t running, which it wouldn’t be when doing the inspection.
    You don’t think they would spin the pedals when testing for a pedal assist device?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TBS View Post
    You don’t think they would spin the pedals when testing for a pedal assist device?
    Well now you’ve reached my point of ignorance.

    I assumed a magnet free motor would need some sort of alternating current applied to create a magnetic field. With no current and no field generated, my assumption is you’d just be spinning some metal parts past each other which wouldn’t create any magnetic field.

    But I could be very wrong here.

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    2024 Tour de France Fantasy League, and general TdF discussions.

    Quote Originally Posted by TBS View Post

    You have no clue about electromagnetic fields and their creation

    Maybe you can show me an electric motor that does not require the flow of electrons…

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    That was mental.

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    So some talk going around tadej being a selfish prick for attacking uneccessarily again and hogging another stage win. Matteo was absolutely devastated today. The win would have done much more for him than tadej.

    Then again visma was planning on crushing tadej today so this was his big f u to those plans. And maybe some redemption from detonating last year losing 7 mins.

    I’m in the latter camp. It’s a bike race, not a charity event. Anything can still happen too. He may need those extra mins if he explodes tomorrow or crashes in the time trial.


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    I gotta admit this is the first year in a while that I've watched any TDF. And I've been enjoying it. But the Stage 19 finish today was was, I don't know ... pretty freakish stuff. Seated, sustained high (100+ ?) spin rate, blowing by guy after guy almost as if he were riding up the hill on a motorcyle. Is this the new normal?

    Interesting take here...

    Don't give them a reason to question you.

    https://youtu.be/hgJBqYGmlIo?si=fbVytTwJvdSN7nVd&t=600
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    Best sign so far

    “RIP SUSPENSE”

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    Quote Originally Posted by fomofo View Post
    Interesting take here...

    Don't give them a reason to question you.

    https://youtu.be/hgJBqYGmlIo?si=fbVytTwJvdSN7nVd&t=600
    Yeah, it baffles me. If he’s doping, why draw attention when you don’t have to?

    I remember last year all the chatter about Vingo being juiced. And now…

    Wonder if Pogi decides to go for Vuelta this year?

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    Tadej takes it. Love it. No mercy. No charity. I think he did specifically to piss lance off.


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    The best part of that was Bob’s incredulous tone when he asked Phil if he’s watched any of the tour so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evasive_MT View Post
    The best part of that was Bob’s incredulous tone when he asked Phil if he’s watched any of the tour so far.
    Caught that. He said what I was thinking.
    Well maybe I'm the faggot America
    I'm not a part of a redneck agenda

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    That Bob comment was hilarious



    Just got to the beach for a break with friends
    As we’re taking stuff in, my buddy arrives & his wife drives his Scott Addict into the carport roof…not the best start to the weekend

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    Bob has been spending a lot of time correcting Phil this time around France.

    Ouch! On the bike. Old racing buddy from PDX put three into the garage door header. After the second, he mounted the bent forks over the garage and had a sign in the car with “Bikes on Board” that he could flip up when appropriate.

    Took about a year for it to happen again…

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    Too bad Tadej is so awesome. Tomorrow’s TT is gonna be a snooze fest. Only battle to settle is like for 10th place.

    I hope TD smashes it. No charity stage win to anyone. Who wants to win that way anyway.


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    Looks like the fantasy game may have updated their Crowdstrike software.
    The Sheriff is near!

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    Great TT ride by Dereck Gee and Matteo!


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    Quote Originally Posted by xyz View Post

    I hope TD smashes it. No charity stage win to anyone. Who wants to win that way anyway.
    Totally. Maybe gift a win to a teammate, but not a rival. However, the classier way to do it would have been to take some pulls at the front when they were reeling in the breakaway.

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    congrats kat5!

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    Jesus, wins the TT by over a minute and becomes the first rider since 1930 to win the final three stages in a row. Talk about putting an exclamation point on it.

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