2024 Tour de France Fantasy League, and general TdF discussions.

[TBS]

Two observations
1. The NBC broadcasters said that on the climb to plateau de Beille yesterday, Jorgensen stomped out 7.2 w/kg for 14 min

2. On stage 17 last year (first day in the Alps) Pogacar blew a gasket and lost like 7 min

[dan_pdx]

Each of the next four stages have intermediate sprints with 20/17/15/13/11/10/9/8/7/6/5/4/3/2/1 points on offer.
Philipsen is 32 points down

Has he even competed for an intermediate sprint this year?

Thanks! Good to know there's still enough points out there for either of them to pull it out. Philipsen and Girmay have gone toe to toe for at least one intermediate sprint in the last few days, but it seemed they were much more focused on stage wins. Now that they need those intermediate points, I assume those will be much more competitive

[::: :::]

And painful in the hills

[xyz]

2. On stage 17 last year (first day in the Alps) Pogacar blew a gasket and lost like 7 min

Jonas has said he had the best climb of his life on stage 15. so it’s no longer about any lack of form.

Tadej completely cracking like that is the only chance Jonas has. But I don’t see it. We’ve had a rest day and a chill stage today. Plus he has made a fuelling error already so likely has that dialed now.

[TBS]

^^^ Yeah, I have little doubt Pogi will have the Mellow Johnny at the end of stage 21

And painful in the hills

Yup, and Philipsen doesn’t much like hills.

Which was why I sold him today to buy Vingo…

[ghosthop]

There is a good thread on reddit with reposts from the cyclingnews forum and twitter that Pogi has a new coach and completely changed his training regimen this year. The insinuation is that he is a genetic freak that has been training sub-optimally for the last four years. Take it as you will.

[TBS]

Damn, that was some good racing today.
Fight for points
Fight for the stage win
Fight for the podium

[buttahflake]

Great Tour, so much better than last year.
I’m a Carapaz guy, happy for him.

[Garth Bimble]

Don't have much to brag about in this years league so excuse me when I say that I'm pretty stoked to get a top ten finish overall for today's stage. FKNA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TBS]

^^Nice work. Carapaz delivered!

[xyz]

There is a good thread on reddit with reposts from the cyclingnews forum and twitter that Pogi has a new coach and completely changed his training regimen this year. The insinuation is that he is a genetic freak that has been training sub-optimally for the last four years. Take it as you will.

Yeah. I heard a bit on this too. He dropped the Italian doc based in boulder. He was all about zone 2 training. The new coach has been pushing up more time in higher zones. Ithink it’s clear it’s working for him. And his dominance this year could be more about that than Jonas coming off an injury.

I think previous coach zone 2 approach was over done. I see this in the biohacking space. Cold exposure is good so I will sit in freezing water 3 hrs a day. Fasting is good so I will starve myself for 14 days etc. zone 2 is good so I will only ride zone 2. Likely not an optimal strategy.

[fomofo]

Motors ... in wheels .... from former soviet countries. Crazy expensive, but probably no longer vaporware.

This podcast is hit or miss, but episode 6 was pretty darn interesting:

https://open.spotify.com/show/5m2ykF...b78863d36040eb

Better racing through chemistry.

Battery chemistry. ;-)

Will we see the day when every racer has to pass his bike through a fluoroscope on the way to the starting line?

That was a very interesting listen, thx for posting.

[TBS]

Victor Campenaerts!

Chris Horner is sitting on his chesterfield going nuts

[xyz]

Better racing through chemistry.

Battery chemistry. ;-)

Will we see the day when every racer has to pass his bike through a fluoroscope on the way to the starting line?

That was a very interesting listen, thx for posting.

If motor doping was really a thing why would they bother with all the nutrition science massages, altitude training, aero testing etc etc?




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[plugboots]

By choice man. It’s a conscious choice.

[TBS]

If motor doping was a thing, the commisars would have detected the electromagnetic fields around the motors.

[huckbucket]

If motor doping was a thing, the commisars would have detected the electromagnetic fields around the motors.

Motors that don't rely on magnets. It's a thing.

Why play up the whole nutrition thing? That's easy, according to the cycling crazed Belgians, physiologic doping is quasi-OK, but motor doping is a grave sin. So you can imagine riders will cover that crap up at all costs.

[xyz]

“From the tv networks to the IOC to WADA to the athletes, they are all in on it. “

Hard to believe that’s changed.

https://youtu.be/2op5XG7LGkI?si=xRoY0zGZ5R62q4DF


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[Benneke10]

They already do X rays of bikes to test for motor doping. There was an issue a few years ago where the testers caused a minor issue with Roglics bike

[::: :::]

This is hard to believe the level above
Pogi was 2:40 behind w/ Jonas & Remco
& then just rode to the finish like he was going downhill, putting another 1:40 into his closest rivals

I don’t think he’s at all worried about the time trial even if the delta was closer

[Garth Bimble]

Somebody needs to tell Tejay to shut the fuck up. I'm sick of his bullshit. I thought Bobke was going to kick his ass the other day and I wish he had.

[::: :::]

I miss Christian in the studio, but he is doing well on the moto too

[dan_pdx]

To think I felt kind of sorry for Tadej after that TT last year

[Garth Bimble]

I miss Christian in the studio, but he is doing well on the moto too

Agreed.

Maybe next year they can ship Tejay off to France and leave him. With his wimpy attitude he should fit right in.

[smmokan]

If motor doping was really a thing why would they bother with all the nutrition science massages, altitude training, aero testing etc etc?




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To cover up the doping? It's all about the aero gains, nutritional advances and training regimens... definitely nothing illegal.