Dropping in on top of Groups/Booting up behind another group

[XXX-er]

I duno who would want to be guided by guides who didnt know where they were,

I don't know why it was relevant to the Canadian guide

I don't know why guides who were twice told to stay in their lane did not

maybe a T-shirt with "an unguided American guide " ?

change over day is a gong show getting on the choppers with 60 other skiers one might think

I wonder where all these other skiers re going ?

[beaterdit]

A new low in Colorado

py source, Snowbrains. No mention of it that I can find on the CAIC's site.

Super shitty behavior of the second party who were apparently just to impatient to wait. Then not to render aid...

[MagnificentUnicorn]

It’s not an issue according to some of the posters in this thread, nothing to see


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[MakersTeleMark]

[MagnificentUnicorn]

She’s too young for me


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[Foggy_Goggles]

A new low in Colorado

py source, Snowbrains. No mention of it that I can find on the CAIC's site.

Super shitty behavior of the second party who were apparently just to impatient to wait. Then not to render aid...

Look harder. I it one one two incidents that prompted this thread. The last Sunday day in the Northern Mountains. One the next Sunday day, the hazards inherit in sharing popular lines with other humans will be the same.

I don't think anyone advocated the behavior of group 2. You are swinging at a piñata that ain't there.

[californiagrown]

Cliff Notes:

The Unguided Americans (I want T shirts and meme please) were given no guidance.

The Heavily Guided Subject of the Queen came with the skiing equivalent of the Strongly Worded Letter

This is the best TGR thread in weeks.

[I've seen black diamonds!]

1) You can't drop in on people even if they are fucking annoying.
2) You can't expect people not to drop in on you if you are skiing a popular, easy to access route.
3) Even if you run into to someone on a less popular, more remote rout, they are much less likely to drop in on you.

[summit]

I also want the T shit

[beaterdit]

Dead horse? Ooops, hahaha!

Look harder. I it one one two incidents that prompted this thread. The last Sunday day in the Northern Mountains. One the next Sunday day, the hazards inherit in sharing popular lines with other humans will be the same.

I don't think anyone advocated the behavior of group 2. You are swinging at a piñata that ain't there.

Duh, my bad. Thought this thread was older and read through pages 2-3 about unguided Americans, hahahaha.

I'll show myself out.

[Foggy_Goggles]

Please stay, dessert will be ready soon!

I was watching people's parking and generally M.O.s at Corona and Berthoud this weekend and though "yep, these are the type of people that drop in on people".

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[Clownshoe]

Dropping in on someone like this is total bush league.
On popular lines like this, if you know another group is waiting to drop in, you probably should make an effort to move efficiently and get out of the way. Regardless, its pretty poor form to sluff someone out and ski away. Pretty shocking actually (if the story about how this went down is actually true).

The backcountry around here (Sea to Sky) is ridiculously busy, and I've seen all kinds of ludicrous behaviour, but I've never experienced anything like this. In my experience, when multiple groups are racing for popular objectives, whoever gets to the top first gets to drop first. I have seen the "race" continue to include who gets their skins off first and is ready to drop in, but in my experience, that's where it ends. If you're dropping first, you try to leave a bit of room for the next group, and not take an unneccessarily long time to ski the objective. If you're not first, you enjoy the view, talk shit about the guys who beat you there, talk shit on the slow guy in your group who held you up, and talk about how if you had started 30 minutes earlier or hadn't stopped to smoke that extra joint, that you might have got first tracks.

I feel like there might be more to this story? I hope we get to hear some more salacious details eventually.

Also, I love the thread drift that revived a years old beef. Let the shit slinging continue!

[Foggy_Goggles]

There maybe somewhere more Bush League than Front Range 14ers but I'm not sure why.

JV ballers from here to [insert city brewery famous for its spray from #do you know I'm a backcountry skier]

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Edit: I guess group one identifies as Summit Locals so is Outer Range the see and be seen outdoorsy pub?

[adrenalated]

There maybe somewhere more Bush League than Front Range 14ers but I'm not sure why.

I would put money on Quandary and Grays/Torreys being in the top 10 for absolute fucking gongshows worldwide.

[skaredshtles]

I would put money on Quandary and Grays/Torreys being in the top 10 for absolute fucking gongshows worldwide.

And I think Quandary has to be miles ahead of G&T, since Quandary doesn't have the 3-mile "filter feature" during "winter" conditions.

But yeah. Front Range gong show continues to spread from what I can see.

So it goes...

[Foggy_Goggles]

"If you don't want to see clowns, don't go to the circus"

"I bet you were cool in the backcountry this past weekend"

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[summit]

What's the deal with the stick horse?

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Maker’s fantasy about being a hobby horse for a pubescent girl


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[Foggy_Goggles]

I'd be interested in the rest of the Gong Show Top 10.

1. Midi/arete down to the top of the Valle Blanche

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[skaredshtles]

I'd be interested in the rest of the Gong Show Top 10.

1. Midi/arete down to the top of the Valle Blanche

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Are we talking "backcountry" Gong Show Top 10? Might make for an interesting thread...

[beaterdit]

Please stay, dessert will be ready soon!

I was watching people's parking and generally M.O.s at Corona and Berthoud this weekend and though "yep, these are the type of people that drop in on people".

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You can learn a lot about people by how they drive and park. Those who lack situational awareness are easy to pick out.

I'd be interested in the rest of the Gong Show Top 10.

1. Midi/arete down to the top of the Valle Blanche

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South Face of Superior here in LCC has got to be in there.

Friends and I had Quandary and Grays/Torrys to ourselves or at least mostly many times in the 90s. Then most of us had the ability to get on them mid-week. I still taylor my life around that. Is it a shitshow even mid-week up there these days?

[summit]

Normal spring day on Quandary

[Foggy_Goggles]

Weekdays in Colorado are generally less busy than weekends (including Fridays) but the needle has swung hard to mostly busy most of the time.

Ahh the 90s, probably not a quiet 80s. So it goes.

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[beaterdit]

Yep, fridays are basically weekends here too it seems.

Yeah there was traffic on holidays/weekends/spring break but the nineties in Breck were pretty awesome for this fledgling ski bum.

Also I was less broken, old, and scared, hahaha.

[old goat]

I'd be interested in the rest of the Gong Show Top 10.

1. Midi/arete down to the top of the Valle Blanche

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We had to literally drag a guy down the arete. When we got to the first ski pitch he wanted to rest The guide told him no. He got stuck halfway across a descending/ascending traverse to the Requin hut and the guide had to ski back below the traverse to keep him from falling off. On the Mer de Glace he and his wife skied past the tram --we figured it out when they didn't show up--and the guide took off down the glacier after them. I don't know how they finally got down--I don't think they were able to climb up to the James Bond and ski down.