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    Brain activity during death or near/death

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/...ath-experience

    “ “As she died, Patient One’s brain was functioning in a kind of hyperdrive,” Borjigin told me. For about two minutes after her oxygen was cut off, there was an intense synchronisation of her brain waves, a state associated with many cognitive functions, including heightened attention and memory. The synchronisation dampened for about 18 seconds, then intensified again for more than four minutes. It faded for a minute, then came back for a third time.”

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    I've read similar a few times. Can't say I'm surprised because the brain is kinda like its own battery.

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    "So we finish the 18th," Carl, says, "and he's gonna stiff me! And I say, 'Hey, Lama, how about a little something, you know, for the effort?' And he says, 'Oh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness.' So I've got that going for me ... which is nice."

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    Brain trying to rage reboot the body.
    CS: Have you cleared cookies and history?
    Brain: Yes
    CS: Have you tried turning it off and turning it back on again?
    Brain: Yes
    CS: Did you purchase the extended warranty?
    Brain: No
    CS: Disconnects
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    It must be pretty trippy to get suddenly decapitated, like with a guillotine.

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    Had a good friend, flight nurse, he suffered cardiac arrest while flying a pediatric trauma patient. No intervention for nine minutes until he arrived at Univ of Utah. He was essentially clinically dead. Was on ECMO for a few days, survived with full recovery somehow.

    He had no out of body experience.

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    Maybe because he was already in the air?

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    It's pretty common, with the use of psychotropic drugs for example, to have the sensation of leaving your body.
    If someone is undergoing cpr their brain is being perfused to some extent. We know from the experience of inadequately anesthetized patients that they can hear. It would not be surprising that someone getting CPR might hear the doctors. And tunnel vision is common in people with inadequate flow to the brain. I'm sure all kinds of weird stuff happens in the brain in the period between normal function and death, especially if the interval is lengthy. What that tells us about the nature of consciousness or the existence of a soul or life beyond death is zero IMO. Think of how weird dreams are.

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    Agree, and that was covered in the article IMO.

    Interesting observations in there about ketamine at high doses.
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    Ötzi wrote:
    It must be pretty trippy to get suddenly decapitated, like with a guillotine.
    Not that you’d have much time to dig on it.

    But I read about one of the guillotine executioners in France that wondered about that, and picked up a head immediately after decapping and gave it a stout slap to see if there was any sign of life. Kind of freaks me out.

    Found a reference, looks like maybe it was a random worker at the execution. Not sure it’ll link properly:
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    On 17 July 1793, Sanson executed Charlotte Corday. After Corday's decapitation, a man named Legros lifted her head from the basket and slapped it on the cheek. Sanson indignantly rejected published reports that Legros was one of his assistants. Sanson stated in his diary that Legros was in fact a carpenter who had been hired to make repairs to the guillotine.[10] Witnesses report an expression of "unequivocal indignation" on her face when her cheek was slapped. The oft-repeated anecdote has served to suggest that victims of the guillotine may in fact retain consciousness for a short while, including by Albert Camus in his Reflections on the Guillotine. ("Charlotte Corday's severed head blushed, it is said, under the executioner's slap."[11]) This offense against a woman executed moments before was considered unacceptable and Legros was imprisoned for three months because of his outburst.

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    I mean, you might get 30 seconds of consciousness? I have no idea but why wouldn't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ötzi View Post
    I mean, you might get 30 seconds of consciousness? I have no idea but why wouldn't you?
    Hopefully enough time to appreciate the weight off your shoulders.


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    "I just went on the greatest crash diet of all time!"

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    My mind was getting a head of myself.
    Is it radix panax notoginseng? - splat
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    One of those real-world ER shows had an episode about a patient who went into some type of cardiac event and would only maintain consciousness while receiving CPR. As soon as docs and nurses stopped pumping he would fade out again. The back and forth went on for a while and they eventually let him go.

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    "Dude we're getting tired of all this pumping, adios."

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    Giving CPR is exhausting.

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    After my dad had flatlined I was holding his hand and told him that he didn't have anything to worry about and that I'd look after mom and my sister. He picked his head up and his eyes opened up and he stared right at me. This was after hours of absolutely zero response. Was kind of freaky.
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    I am a researcher in the consciousness raising effects of “Le Petit Mort”, and I truly believe one should research at least once a day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper View Post
    Giving CPR is exhausting.
    That's why I let the little people do it.

    Wasn't there a victim of the terror who asked a friend to watch his severed head and he said he'd try to blink his eyes a couple of times. I forget how it turned out, I think he didn't blink his eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    I am a researcher in the consciousness raising effects of “Le Petit Mort”, and I truly believe one should research at least once a day.
    Or as mamy times as you have the hand strength to do it.

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    He couldn't look away.

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    These exercises are not necessarily performed alone!
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    old goat posted:
    That's why I let the little people do it.
    Heh. Fukn docs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ötzi View Post
    "I just went on the greatest crash diet of all time!"
    Guillotine to Ozempic - “hold my beer”


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