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    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    They also look heavy.


    How much is this numbness a function of everyone going to 35mm bar bore, do you guys think? My Next bars (carbon) seem as still as a 31.8mm aluminum bar. Maybe stiffer.
    A lot, especially on the first 35 carbon ones. From personal experience, the RF SixC & Next (unless they're the narrow SL ones) are super stiff. As are the Renthal 35s. Even Renthal 31.8 carbon is stiff AF - I did 1 ride with those and took them off. Newer 35s (in last couple years since OneUp came out) have actually been trying to get back to feeling like 31.8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJG View Post
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ID:	490771Titanium 31.8mm is "soft" without being vague.
    "Budget" 31.8 ti options? Those Roost bars are real spendy.

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    they occasionally pop up on KSL for under $150. I see them every few mos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evdog View Post
    Posted this in the experts thread but also relevant for hand numbness. I know a few riders who swear by these bars with elastomers to dampen vibrations. https://fasstmtb.com/collections/end...in-bike-enduro
    Perfect for those who think RevGrips are too cheap.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    After the first three seconds, Corbet's is really pretty average.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Malcolm View Post
    I mean, it's not your fault. They say talent skips a generation.
    But hey, I'm sure your kids will be sharp as tacks.

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    Those suspension bars are like $450 and half a pound heavier. I know a couple people who have them though, but I'd never go that route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andeh View Post
    A lot, especially on the first 35 carbon ones. From personal experience, the RF SixC & Next (unless they're the narrow SL ones) are super stiff. As are the Renthal 35s. Even Renthal 31.8 carbon is stiff AF - I did 1 ride with those and took them off. Newer 35s (in last couple years since OneUp came out) have actually been trying to get back to feeling like 31.8.
    Yeah, I have the next. The 785mm one. Very stiff. LSC adjustment helps a certain amount.
    Anyone have any feedback on Deity carbon bars? They make some with a 30mm rise by 810, and I think I might like that. Speedway? I can never keep the names straight.
    Probably just get GA2 fats whenever my current grips wear out.
    No longer stuck.

    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Just an uneducated guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Yeah, I have the next. The 785mm one. Very stiff. LSC adjustment helps a certain amount.
    Anyone have any feedback on Deity carbon bars? They make some with a 30mm rise by 810, and I think I might like that. Speedway? I can never keep the names straight.
    Probably just get GA2 fats whenever my current grips wear out.
    I can't recall where I read it (maybe LoamWolf?) but in a bar shootout they said that the Deity bars were among the stiffest they'd ever used and did not like them.

    If you like normal bar sweep (~8 degrees), just get OneUp. If you like lots of bar sweep, try the PNW carbon one. Both have various rise options.

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    35mm seems too high for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Just an uneducated guess.

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    back in the day i bought 3 bars of different rises & sweep to try on the bike while sitting in my shed expecting to keep one

    Instead I took them all back cuz I couldn't really tell the difference,

    I don't really notice bar width either

    ymmv but I'm an insensitive bastard eh
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    I'm apparently a special snowflake. I was afraid they'd be really stiff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Just an uneducated guess.

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    Why do most handlebar designers do rises in 10, 20, and then all the way up to 35mm? Why not more 30mm? I suppose I could lower my stem, but reach on my bike is already really long and steertube is somewhat short. It has the reach adjust thing, which seems like a pain, and as I said, the steertube is kinda short. Just changing bars would be so much easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Just an uneducated guess.

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    So, nobody knows? It just is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Just an uneducated guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    So, nobody knows? It just is?
    Some things just is
    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    After the first three seconds, Corbet's is really pretty average.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Malcolm View Post
    I mean, it's not your fault. They say talent skips a generation.
    But hey, I'm sure your kids will be sharp as tacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roxtar View Post
    Some things just is
    How it be
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    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Just an uneducated guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    How it be
    It jus be
    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    After the first three seconds, Corbet's is really pretty average.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Malcolm View Post
    I mean, it's not your fault. They say talent skips a generation.
    But hey, I'm sure your kids will be sharp as tacks.

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    Counterpoint: those of us from the Church of Stack wonder why all the 35mm rise bars instead of 40mm.

    Also, why do only Renthal & Truvativ make 7 degree sweep bars? I like the more aggressive position it puts my arms in, but Renthals make my hands cry.

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    I put on some SC 800 carbon bars. Didn't fix me but seems to be more better, or it's all in my head... Also I've never had carbon and am paranoid I'm going to snap them.
    Last edited by Blatant; 04-16-2024 at 03:44 PM.

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    SC bars appear to be *very* similar to OneUps, which isn't surprising since they have the same parent company. I'm sure there's some slight differences, but the shape profile is the same.

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    It helped me to put the pressure on the thick heel of my palm ( instead of having the bar along my first knuckles, where theres not much meat) - I thought it might be similar to how you're meant to hold a sword and looks like it just might be...
    https://www.hanbonforge.com/BLOG/How...word-correctly

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    Anyone have any feedback on Cannondale branded bars? I'd like a tad more width, but the price is right.
    https://planetcyclery.com/components...35x800mm-black
    I think a lot of my front end stiffness is coming from my Deity stems. I noticed it right away when I went to one on my hardtail with 31.8mm aluminum bars. I like them though. Aside from the fact that they're pretty, they have 5mm hardware so I'm less likely to hamfistedly strip anything when messing with my bar roll like a crazy person. Also, the low stack height helps me get the bars as low as I can on 1 bike and high as I can on the other. Because obviously, I'm insane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Just an uneducated guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    I think a lot of my front end stiffness is coming from my Deity stems.
    Nope. Just too easy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    After the first three seconds, Corbet's is really pretty average.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Malcolm View Post
    I mean, it's not your fault. They say talent skips a generation.
    But hey, I'm sure your kids will be sharp as tacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roxtar View Post
    Nope. Just too easy.
    You may not think that's how it is, but it be.
    Wait, are we still doing that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Just an uneducated guess.

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    And by front end stiffness, I'm obviously not referring to actual bike/fork flex, I just didn't have a better word for what I feel with stiff bar/stem combo. I'm thinking I should just try some GA2 fats. Maybe put them on both bikes if I like them. Trying to get pedals/seat/grips to be the same on both, so of course 2 Silverado Chromoly Narrow seats are different padding.
    No longer stuck.

    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Just an uneducated guess.

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    If you ever rode motos, you know about Oury Grips.
    They're the most, softest, and grippiest rubber you can put on on a normal diameter grip.
    (If you think vibration is an issue when mountain biking, try riding with a 600cc single roaring away. As usual with mountain bike tech, the motorcycle guys figured it out decades ago.)

    You can get them in MTB versions with no inner or outer flanges, and in both single and dual clamp lock-ons.
    https://www.lizardskins.com/oury

    I prefer the no flange, no lock on version: as mentioned before, lock-ons don't absorb vibrations nearly as well because part of the rubber gets traded for the plastic sleeve.
    They come in a bunch of crazy colors, including glow in the dark, but I usually run basic black.
    These might be a good solution for those who don't like the feel of silicone foam grips.


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