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[SnowMachine]

New TGR flick @ Palisades tonight after Oktoberfest

We were at the early show. Really solid movie this year. Better than last year. Kai is a machine and I was amped to see Sammy Carlson with a part!!

Back to the trails.... Isn't it OTB that drops at the footbridge just south of OV? What, maybe a mile up 89 from Deer Creek.

IMO, the more access and trail heads, the better. There's plenty of dirt out there. Spread folks out.

[TahoeJ]

We were at the early show. Really solid movie this year. Better than last year. Kai is a machine and I was amped to see Sammy Carlson with a part!!

Back to the trails.... Isn't it OTB that drops at the footbridge just south of OV? What, maybe a mile up 89 from Deer Creek.

IMO, the more access and trail heads, the better. There's plenty of dirt out there. Spread folks out.

Yeah OTB hits the 06 fire road right around there - really just a few hundred feet from the top of Deer Creek. But the bridge being proposed would be closer to the sawtooth parking lot so several miles away. Opens up so many more loops and no need to drive through Sierra Meadows to get over there. Anyway fingers crossed.

[SnowMachine]

Yeah OTB hits the 06 fire road right around there - really just a few hundred feet from the top of Deer Creek. But the bridge being proposed would be closer to the sawtooth parking lot so several miles away. Opens up so many more loops and no need to drive through Sierra Meadows to get over there. Anyway fingers crossed.

Cool. I'm all for it. It's fun linking the zones together.

[~mikey b]

I don’t know about you guys, but I’m fkn ready

bought my SB midweek pass and rebuilt my quiver

I sold or gave away everything I had except for the V6




bring it

[powdork]

To our Homewood community,????

As the caretakers of Homewood Mountain, we have always been excited to revitalize the resort and improve the skier experience for all with updated infrastructure and responsible environmental improvements to ensure the resort’s economic and environmental sustainability, consistent with the approved Master Plan.?????

For many years, Homewood Mountain Resort (HMR) has been subsidizing the community’s ski experience while operating at a deficit during the approved Master Plan’s planning and permitting phases. Unlike other small ski resorts in the Lake Tahoe Basin such as Diamond Peak, Homewood is a privately owned business and is not supported by any public tax or other community assessment.?For the last several years we have relied on our financial partner for the annual subsidy.?

In May 2024, HMR submitted an application for minor revisions to the 2011 approved Master Plan to the Tahoe Regional Planning Agency. The proposed revisions are site plan modifications only. The proposed site plan changes are to move the gondola terminal to a more skier-friendly position, to reduce the massing of the buildings, reduce residential density, and to open the view corridors of the mountain and lake. The revisions make no changes whatsoever to the Master Plan’s central goal of restoring Homewood as a key gathering center for Lake Tahoe’s West Shore. Anyone who wants to buy a pass and ski at Homewood will continue to be able to do so on equal footing with anyone else.?

Since the applications were submitted, the Homewood Mountain Resort team has been diligently working with local and regional agencies and the West Shore community regarding the submission. ?To date, we are still awaiting approval of the amendments, including the Madden Chair replacement (gondola) permit submitted over a year ago, to move forward on ski infrastructure and other investments. Hypothetical fears and false rumors regarding public access to the mountain from Keep Homewood Public’s leadership have dramatically slowed the pace of the approval process.??

Without a clear path forward, our financial partner has withdrawn their support for this ski season. As a result, we are now in the regrettable position of being unable to operate or sell season passes for the 2024-25 season.?We understand the deep disappointment this announcement will cause. It goes without saying that this decision was not made lightly.???

The team at HMR remains focused on working through the approval process at this year’s upcoming planning meetings with community members and governing agencies in the hope that we can get the gondola installed next year and someday soon resume operations at the resort.??We are also working to support every employee so they have alternative employment or can stay with us while we work through the approval processes.??

We remain steadfast in our belief that our proposed revised plan – which includes new state-of-the-art infrastructure, environmental improvements, community gathering spaces, public access to the ski hill, and more – meets all stated requirements, addresses all concerns, and exemplifies economic and environmental responsibility.????

We are committed to the vision we share with the community for an enhanced, sustainable skier experience at Homewood Mountain Resort that will be available for locals and visitors alike for years to come.????

Sincerely,????

Homewood Mountain Resort????


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[Muggydude]

I think you missed a few ???? marks


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[TahoeJ]

That’s one hell of a gaslighting press release…

[Eastside]

Somewhere is some poor bastard who rode Homewood every day, just seething

[Gman]

Is the viability of Homewood contingent on the development plan? Wouldn’t that mostly be a one time infusion of cash? How much money do resorts get through public tax/community assessments?

To me this seems like a situation where some private owners got sour grapes about the lack of progress on their development and took their toys and went home but in this case their toys are a ski resort.

[skysos]

Whatever plans they have, if they close the resort for a season the value of the asset drops. All that stuff needs to be maintained. Once it sits for 2-3 seasons it's a massive undertaking to get it going again. It's an incredibly dumb business move which can be added to the long list of incredibly dumb business moves they've made.

[TahoeJ]

Is the viability of Homewood contingent on the development plan? Wouldn’t that mostly be a one time infusion of cash? How much money do resorts get through public tax/community assessments?

To me this seems like a situation where some private owners got sour grapes about the lack of progress on their development and took their toys and went home but in this case their toys are a ski resort.

Yep, that’s pretty much it. Stealing this from a friend: “JMA Ventures is to ski areas as John Fisher is to baseball.”

[Eastside]

Yep, that’s pretty much it. Stealing this from a friend: “JMA Ventures is to ski areas as John Fisher is to baseball.”

That bad eh?

[old goat]

Unconfirmed wolf sightings in Hope Valley.

[~mikey b]

confirmed cougar sightings in Squaw Valley

[old goat]

confirmed cougar sightings in Squaw Valley

I can confirm. Some decent bands too.

[Gman]

Can you skin homewood if it’s not going to be open this year?

[lepistoir]

Can you skin homewood if it’s not going to be open this year?

Of course not. There will be guards at the base to make sure if they can't use it however they want, ain't no one using it at all.

[powdork]

Whatever plans they have, if they close the resort for a season the value of the asset drops. All that stuff needs to be maintained. Once it sits for 2-3 seasons it's a massive undertaking to get it going again. It's an incredibly dumb business move which can be added to the long list of incredibly dumb business moves they've made.

They are a real estate company. The one rule is to maintain the value of the real estate and they're blowing it

[SnowMachine]

I know little about the HW fiasco, but they certainly seem like the kid rolling around on the ground whining because their parent wouldn't let them have the candy.

I predict HW goes private. It all feels the same these days. People put up a huge fuss, things get delayed a bit, then the rich gorilla in the room gets what they want.

Homewood Was???

[~mikey b]

read up before you write

[old goat]

Where's the fun in that. Ban real time fact checking.

[Truckee Joe]

I predict HW goes private. It all feels the same these days. People put up a huge fuss, things get delayed a bit, then the rich gorilla in the room gets what they want.

Homewood Was???

People have no idea what they are fighting. This move could also cost Cindy the election, Not a good look for her making money pick up and leave town.

Yellowstone club can afford to let that report sit for years. It will rebound (monetarily) very quick. Zuck is in the neighborhood now, maybe he will buy it.

[SnowMachine]

read up before you write

Enlighten me. I've done some reading, but like I said, I know little about it.

I said what I said. They aren't profitable. I doubt they'll become profitable. Investors like money.

I understand they're frustrated by not being able to move on their projects, but how does closing improve their outlook?

Like I said, enlighten me.

One thing I know is that there are huge wallets on the sideline that would love to have a clubhouse with a ski hill.

Edit: call me a pessimist.

[SnowMachine]

People have no idea what they are fighting. This move could also cost Cindy the election, Not a good look for her making money pick up and leave town.

Yellowstone club can afford to let that report sit for years. It will rebound (monetarily) very quick. Zuck is in the neighborhood now, maybe he will buy it.

It's a land holding and they have capital. What's the game, though? At this stage we have all but proven that a stand alone public resort won't be profitable. Am I wrong?

[old goat]

It's more of the same. More and more the only value that matters is money. Ski areas were started by people who loved skiing. Doctors took care of people instead of generating profit for private equity. Public schools taught kids; now charter schools lie to parents to make a buck. You've heard it all ad nauseum.
What we've gained in high speed detachables we've lost in joy.