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  1. #2776
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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    Whatever happened to open ski area, charge people money to ski, make a little profit and ski every day? I agree that all assets should be put to their highest and best use, but that is usually not its economic use. I think we can all agree that skiing is the highest and best use for many things, including garbage incinerators in Copenhagen. We can also agree that he who skis highest, skis best.
    Yep, Cushing used to say he was in the uphill people moving business. Or something like that. I’d never believe I’d wish that guy was still the owner now if you asked me back then

    Fuck PE. It truly ruins everything and makes the worst people even more wealthy and puts little to nothing back into the world

  2. #2777
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    Yep. Uphill transportation business.

  3. #2778
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    We Care!

  4. #2779
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    Meanwhile…Lil Wayne be coming to Olympic Valley to help kick off ski season!

    https://www.palisadestahoe.com/event...dar/tahoe-live
    "Man, we killin' elephants in the back yard..."

    https://www.blizzard-tecnica.com/us/en

  5. #2780
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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeJ View Post
    Private equity bullshit is what happened. They ruin pretty much everything.
    Andy Hays posted this un-real, except all too real, example of private equity's mantra for the ski biz:

    "We're looking for the guest to spend more, not ski more."

    https://www.instagram.com/p/C_yuzN-yVO2/


    ARRGGGHHHHHH
    sproing!

  6. #2781
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    and that’s what we all want

    let the burgers and beers and rentals and lessons help keep the season pass prices down
    I didn't believe in reincarnation when I was your age either.

  7. #2782
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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeJ View Post
    Private equity bullshit is what happened. They ruin pretty much everything.
    Well at least they buy ski areas, not hospitals and medical practices. Oh, wait.

  8. #2783
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    I just wanna be a toys r us kid. Oh wait.

  9. #2784
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    If you're PE, companies are your toys.

  10. #2785
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    Tahoe '23/'24 - Reserve Now For Best Pricing!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    If you're PE, companies are your toys.
    The movie Wall Street came out in 1987 and yet here we are almost 40 years later. The thing about it that’s often overlooked is that Gecko gets busted for insider trading, not for the worst thing he actually does (or attempts to) because it’s completely legal (buying a controlling share of a company, liquidating its assets and deep sixing thousands of jobs).

    These ski resorts owned by investment banker types saying they need to do X to keep the mountain open are mostly full of shit.

  11. #2786
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    Unfortunately, at the time, most thought of Gordon and his mantra as something to emulate

  12. #2787
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    Tahoe '23/'24 - Reserve Now For Best Pricing!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by mcski View Post
    Unfortunately, at the time, most thought of Gordon and his mantra as something to emulate
    Yeah I meant the whole point is people missed the point. Great movie but would have been even better (and more realistic) if Gecko skated free and only Bud went to jail for doing the right thing. Anyway, fuck investor shitheads - they really have ruined skiing to a certain degree.

  13. #2788
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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeJ View Post
    The movie Wall Street came out in 1987 and yet here we are almost 40 years later. The thing about it that’s often overlooked is that Gecko gets busted for insider trading, not for the worst thing he actually does (or attempts to) because it’s completely legal (buying a controlling share of a company, liquidating its assets and deep sixing thousands of jobs).

    These ski resorts owned by investment banker types saying they need to do X to keep the mountain open are mostly full of shit.
    I joked a bunch about lifts being on financial hold last year, but it's a reality for mega resorts. Ops reports to accountants. Accountants report to share holders. Ski for the love is a dying concept. Faded into obscurity by corporate greed, insane operating cost, environmental regs, etc.

    Consumers are guilty of driving it. People like shiny shit. Shiny shit is expensive.

    It's not all bad, but we can nitpick.

  14. #2789
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    Any north lake mags have a shimano specific bottom bracket tool they’d be willing to lend for an afternoon?

  15. #2790
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    Got to be more specific than that, what iteration of bottom bracket?

  16. #2791
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    Quote Originally Posted by heckacali View Post
    Got to be more specific than that, what iteration of bottom bracket?
    Fair. It’s a MT800 threaded bb. I think the Shimano specific part number is tl-fc37. Park Tool number is BBT 59.3.

  17. #2792
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    Washington Post just published 6 less crowded, cheaper resorts with "better snow". Numbers 1 and 2--SB and Rose. At least the picture of Rose is of the Chutes, which should discourage the east coasters. Thanks a lot.
    https://wapo.st/3zesHEg

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    Tahoe '23/'24 - Reserve Now For Best Pricing!!!

    Are East Coast Joeys really a problem there?

    https://www.aspendailynews.com/news/...bf0633506.html

    We had one hit and run an instructor.
    Really fucked her up. They've ID him, but so far he has avoided being served.

  19. #2794
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    It’s more so that SB and Rose aren’t really a secret but at the same time we try not to talk about them too much.

  20. #2795
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shredhead View Post
    Are East Coast Joeys really a problem there?

    https://www.aspendailynews.com/news/...bf0633506.html

    We had one hit and run an instructor.
    Really fucked her up. They've ID him, but so far he has avoided being served.
    Why no criminal charges?

  21. #2796
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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeJ View Post
    It’s more so that SB and Rose aren’t really a secret but at the same time we try not to talk about them too much.
    I’m not too worried about SB. So far the VC homeowners have been doing a great job subsidizing low crowds with their HOA fees

  22. #2797
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    Dear Tahoe part time residents:

    Turn your fucking outdoor porch/walkway/driveway lights off at night, especially when you aren't even here.

    You don't live here, you aren't coming and going, no one is breaking into your house, there is no need for an array of lights lighting up all of your property bleeding into the surrounding area. All you are doing is ruining the beautiful mountain dark of night for people who live here.

    I walk my dog every night and all fulltime resident houses are dark, but the ones where the people come up 2-5x per year, or STR are lit up like Vegas.

    I love the one around the corner where I have never seen a car or occupant just built big gaudy columns at the end of the driveway with North Sea lighthouse fixtures on top with bright white 3k Kelvin bulbs on all night. FUCK YOU.

    Ah, that feels better.
    Back to unscrewing their bulbs and leaving Karen notes.

  23. #2798
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    We had one of those move in a couple years ago w motion activation klieg lights that went on from blocks away. Finally someone had a stern chat and they haven’t been an issue for a while. My BB gun skills were about to be sharpened otherwise. I was amazed at how obnoxious a couple garage light could be

  24. #2799
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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    Washington Post just published 6 less crowded, cheaper resorts with "better snow". Numbers 1 and 2--SB and Rose. At least the picture of Rose is of the Chutes, which should discourage the east coasters. Thanks a lot.
    https://wapo.st/3zesHEg
    “Sierra concrete”

  25. #2800
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    Quote Originally Posted by heckacali View Post
    Dear Tahoe part time residents:

    Turn your fucking outdoor porch/walkway/driveway lights off at night, especially when you aren't even here.

    You don't live here, you aren't coming and going, no one is breaking into your house, there is no need for an array of lights lighting up all of your property bleeding into the surrounding area. All you are doing is ruining the beautiful mountain dark of night for people who live here.

    I walk my dog every night and all fulltime resident houses are dark, but the ones where the people come up 2-5x per year, or STR are lit up like Vegas.

    I love the one around the corner where I have never seen a car or occupant just built big gaudy columns at the end of the driveway with North Sea lighthouse fixtures on top with bright white 3k Kelvin bulbs on all night. FUCK YOU.

    Ah, that feels better.
    Back to unscrewing their bulbs and leaving Karen notes.
    People love to bag on HOA’s but … TD won’t allow this and has very specific lighting restrictions and it’s great.

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