50 years to the day

[ex-powderbroker]

Tangential, but, what happened in Haiti? Arent the kenyan peacekeeping force literally just arriving there?

cholera killed 9k

mass rapes

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...i-report-says/

so basically they failed to restore order (coup after they left) and were not well liked by the local population that they failed to protect.

i think that combined with the outright failures in Lebanon, Bosnia, and Darfur have given the idea of “peacekeeping” a severe black eye.

[summit]

Hamas Losses, Gaza destruction likely helped push Hamas to soften cease-fire demands, several officials say

Good AP article with inside info on how massive losses for Hamas and the devastating impacts of war on Gaza have many of the survivng senior Hamas leaders in Gaza demanding that the more senior Hamas leaders living on the high hog in Qatar accept the US proposed peace proposal, particularly dropping the non-starter that Israel agree to permanently end the war with Hamas in control as a precondition to ceasefire.

One significant step closer...

[highangle]

Iran's proxies bomb Israeli city: Houthis and Islamic Resistance of Iraq carried out fresh joint attack on Eilat


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/.../111597435.cms

[riser4]

Hamas Losses, Gaza destruction likely helped push Hamas to soften cease-fire demands, several officials say

Good AP article with inside info on how massive losses for Hamas and the devastating impacts of war on Gaza have many of the survivng senior Hamas leaders in Gaza demanding that the more senior Hamas leaders living on the high hog in Qatar accept the US proposed peace proposal, particularly dropping the non-starter that Israel agree to permanently end the war with Hamas in control as a precondition to ceasefire.

One significant step closer...

Fuck Hamas. Then they can address the Hezbollah problem. Then hopefully the illegal Israeli settlement problem in the West Bank. A boy can dream, right?

[Core Shot]

50 years to the day and I’m too tired to continue

Let’s go net and yahoo
Mosiach on the way

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/ar-BB1qlbhk

[J. Barron DeJong]

https://bsky.app/profile/paleofuture.../3ky644y2oef2i

[summit]

https://bsky.app/profile/paleofuture.../3ky644y2oef2i

Nice job repeating a bunch of absolute BS propoganda based on appeals to emotional completely unsupported by the facts. They are claiming that civilian deaths are more than 2x what even Hamas claims for total militant+civilian deaths... and they claim it is because dirty Jews are "intentionally executing children" with headshots, of course! So the solution is for the US to make Israel quit the war instead of forcing Hamas to quit fighting and release the hostages?

You are good with analyzing financial news. Why can't you put on your critical thinking cap when it comes to this conflict?

[cat in january]

Given the level of destruction and the inability to check the ruble and the chaotic nature of the war with the population relocating, I am sure the dead are just guesstimates. .

[J. Barron DeJong]

Nice job repeating a bunch of absolute BS propoganda based on appeals to emotional completely unsupported by the facts. They are claiming that civilian deaths are more than 2x what even Hamas claims for total militant+civilian deaths... and they claim it is because dirty Jews are "intentionally executing children" with headshots, of course! So the solution is for the US to make Israel quit the war instead of forcing Hamas to quit fighting and release the hostages?

You are good with analyzing financial news. Why can't you put on your critical thinking cap when it comes to this conflict?

If different group of American doctors working in Gaza come out with their own letter saying ‘no, those doctors were lying’, I’ll take that as a strong refutation.

[rod9301]

Nice job repeating a bunch of absolute BS propoganda based on appeals to emotional completely unsupported by the facts. They are claiming that civilian deaths are more than 2x what even Hamas claims for total militant+civilian deaths... and they claim it is because dirty Jews are "intentionally executing children" with headshots, of course! So the solution is for the US to make Israel quit the war instead of forcing Hamas to quit fighting and release the hostages?

You are good with analyzing financial news. Why can't you put on your critical thinking cap when it comes to this conflict?

How are you going to stop Hamas from fighting?

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[MultiVerse]

You are good with analyzing financial news.

lol, Jong has gotten every financial call wrong since he joined the forum in 2020

How are you going to stop Hamas from fighting?

There is an enormous gap between what Westerners think the Palestinian cause is and what Palestinians think the Palestinian cause is. There has to be Palestinian government(s) in the West Bank and/or Gaza that does not want to see Israel destroyed as its only goal:

https://x.com/MarinaMedvin/status/1815828618418761848

[ex-powderbroker]

How are you going to stop Hamas from fighting?

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how are you going to stop Hamas from fighting, kidnapping, and terrorizing, Rodney?

[waxman]

lol, Jong has gotten every financial call wrong since he joined the forum in 2020




There is an enormous gap between what Westerners think the Palestinian cause is and what Palestinians think the Palestinian cause is. There has to be Palestinian government(s) in the West Bank and/or Gaza that does not want to see Israel destroyed as its only goal:

https://x.com/MarinaMedvin/status/1815828618418761848

that video is terrifying

[MultiVerse]

FWIW, Hamas shifted its strategy to modelling Hezbollah now that its military capabilities are degraded. That means Hamas gives up pretense for the welfare of Palestinians in Gaza, becoming instead primarily a terrorist organization. Instead of splitting resources—Hamas currently controls the civil government in Gaza and is responsible for its citizens— between civilian & military, Hamas would focus on terrorist activity. While at the same time, like Hezbollah in Beirut, indirectly act behind-the-scenes as a kind of shadow government influencing the official government.

Like Hezbollah, operating free from civilian concern makes Hamas more of a threat to regional stability.

[cat in january]

Hamas must no longer be

[gravitylover]

Hamas must no longer be

Yup

[Bunion 2020]

How can you kill an idea? Yes, they suck and are assholes but from what I have seen over the years getting a terrorist org. to not exist is damn difficult.

Ex: Black September
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_...r_Organization

[summit]

National terror ideologies can be defeated. The Nazis, the Imperial Japanese, the Soviets, Baathists, the Italian Fascists, and a long list of terrorist ideologies that didn't reach national control like Sendero Luminoso, Red Army Faction, FARC...

All Terrorist groups come to an end. They either decide to adopt nonviolent tactics and join the political process, or military/law-enforcement kill/arrest enough (key) members of the group.

[rod9301]

Still, pretty hard. Lots of Muslims that would be willing recruits, especially now that they want to revenge the killing of the of thousands of Palestinians.



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[ex-powderbroker]

fuck the bbc and hezbollah

[Bunion 2020]

National terror ideologies can be defeated. The Nazis, the Imperial Japanese, the Soviets, Baathists, the Italian Fascists, and a long list of terrorist ideologies that didn't reach national control like Sendero Luminoso, Red Army Faction, FARC...

All Terrorist groups come to an end. They either decide to adopt nonviolent tactics and join the political process, or military/law-enforcement kill/arrest enough (key) members of the group.

OK, from your example, the Nazis and the empire of Japan and the Italian fascists were defeated and eradicated by waging a world war, totally destroying the German and Japanese and Italian homelands and then helping them rebuild it to the point of occupation and providing what would be billions of dollars in American and world aid and at least 30 years.

Is Israel willing to do that with Gaza and the West Bank? Seems like they are willing to do the former, how about the latter?

[JimmyCarter]

OK, from your example, the Nazis and the empire of Japan and the Italian fascists were defeated and eradicated by waging a world war, totally destroying the German and Japanese and Italian homelands and then helping them rebuild it to the point of occupation and providing what would be billions of dollars in American and world aid and at least 30 years.

Is Israel willing to do that with Gaza and the West Bank? Seems like they are willing to do the former, how about the latter?

Gonna rebuild bigly!

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/jare...front-property

[Bunion 2020]

Well shit, 3 cheers for the free market, our troubles are now over.

[cat in january]

I think that is the key. Guessing likely to be much less corruption than rebuilding efforts say in Ukraine. No idea what I am talking about, but twice the cost of the war seems sensible

Edit: just read the vanity fair piece. Fuck Kushner and his grifting ways.

[ex-powderbroker]

i’m sorry, why do you think the grifting is going to be less in gaza and the west bank than in a European country free of Russia?

arafat took 1-5B before his death out of the palestinian pockets.

these guys say 3B:

https://www.newarab.com/analysis/nos...-yasser-arafat

this guy, whoever it is (with citations) claims in 2023:

hinayeh 4b

abbas 100M

this culture is going to change on a dime because we want it to just like iraq and afghanistan did?