How to improve my immune system?

[CarlMega]

Has anyone suggested a stool transplant? I believe there's a TGR homekit DIY we can help you with.

[Mofro261]

Has anyone suggested a stool transplant? I believe there's a TGR homekit DIY we can help you with.

This is why I like this place- people are always willing to spread the good shit around.

[Core Shot]

This is why I like this place- people are always willing to spread the good shit around.

Shit

It’s not just for door handles.

[Not DJSapp]

this sounds a lot like me already, i am germophobic. involuntary, i am avoiding this stuff for a long time. guess my body told me don't touch this shit cause it makes you sick. i like using the arms of my jacket/hoody for almost everything.

Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder, don't nobody wants to lift this heavy ass weight.

Want a stronger immune system? It has to be exposed to germs. Stop being a bubble boy. Live fast, take chances. Make your immune system lift some heavy ass weight

As for spacedocking details, PM Rontele

[mud]

Avoid people.
Take up telemark so people will avoid you.

[Cruiser]

Wash your hands. A lot. And keep them out of your god damned mouth and nose.

[old goat]

Sleep, balanced diet, easy on the drinking. No need for vits and minerals if eating a balanced diet. As many have already said. No need for gimmicks.

[bennymac]

The risk/reward of a multivitamin 2 times a week makes it make sense to me.

Re: the above discussion about placebo effect and homeopathy- there isn’t really anything to research about homeopathy - if you understand what homeopathy is and you still think it might work and therefore you get some amount of placebo benefit from it you have bigger issues than worrying about your immune system - you might want to examine all your beliefs about how the human body works.

[old goat]

Re the placebo effect--there was a study (I can't recall what condition was being looked at) that showed the placebo effect worked even when people were told they were getting a placebo.

[bennymac]

Yeah Huberman mentioned that on a recent podcast.

If taking a homeopathic glass of water with a substance diluted to 1 part in a zillion would give me benefit even though I think it’s total baloney…well why would I spend money on any homeopathic product?

I could just put one grain of sugar in a big glass of water, call it homeopathy, and then gain some sort of nebulous benefit - I guess whatever benefit I choose in advance?

[J. Barron DeJong]

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/...%20fake%20one.

[J. Barron DeJong]

Yeah Huberman mentioned that on a recent podcast.

If taking a homeopathic glass of water with a substance diluted to 1 part in a zillion would give me benefit even though I think it’s total baloney…well why would I spend money on any homeopathic product?

I could just put one grain of sugar in a big glass of water, call it homeopathy, and then gain some sort of nebulous benefit - I guess whatever benefit I choose in advance?

Seems like if someone truly believed something works they may benefit from a larger placebo effect?

[Gepeto]

I have the shittiest immune system, and I swear one day it will be the death of me...
...be a hermit, and you should be fine. We are a filthy virus spreading species...

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[SB]

I recall having to do my own homework.

That must not be a thing any more.

Go figure.


I will second Mr Cruiser recommendation of hand washing and add that you need to eat 37 raw garlic cloves each day.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Not complicated. Get lots of sleep, eat as healthy as you can, exercise, lose weight if you're fat.

eta: Also, homeopathy, JFC, no.

This is the best answer. I posted this in the fitness over 40 thread basically. Eat well, sleep well, keep moving.


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[Foggy_Goggles]

This is the best answer. I posted this in the fitness over 40 thread basically. Eat well, sleep well, keep moving.


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And learn to enjoy it. That was a big thing for me. Just mentally turning the corner and realizing that feeling good and being health was more important to me that any pleasure I got from the shitty habits and choices.

Honestly, that is what i observe in my circle. Some people make the choice to prioritize health and fitness and others, sometimes subconsciously I'm thinking, double down on the happy hours, sport eating and sedentary entertainment.

Its not easy, but it isn't complicated.

[californiagrown]

Re the placebo effect--there was a study (I can't recall what condition was being looked at) that showed the placebo effect worked even when people were told they were getting a placebo.

Yep. As long as the thing isnt harmful, and you truly believe it works, odds are high you will see some benefit from it. The mind has a crazy powerful effect on your physiology. Especially when we talk about subjective symptom relief- like pain reduction or how severe you perceive your cold/flu symptoms to be.

[Dantheman]

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/...%20fake%20one.

This is the key point:

"Kaptchuk says placebos won’t work for every medical situation—for example, they can’t lower cholesterol or cure cancer. But they can work for conditions that are defined by “self-observation” symptoms like pain, nausea, or fatigue."

Immune system function would seem to fall in the former category. Even those "self-observation" conditions don't justify giving your money to jackasses selling useless homeopathic treatments. Also, there is the "nocebo" effect to consider. In clinical trials it's common for people in the placebo arm to report experiencing the potential side effects of the drug that they are not actually taking.

And learn to enjoy it. That was a big thing for me. Just mentally turning the corner and realizing that feeling good and being health was more important to me that any pleasure I got from the shitty habits and choices.

Honestly, that is what i observe in my circle. Some people make the choice to prioritize health and fitness and others, sometimes subconsciously I'm thinking, double down on the happy hours, sport eating and sedentary entertainment.

Its not easy, but it isn't complicated.

In the long run, it's almost always harder to do the "easy" thing. But, if you do the "hard" thing long enough it becomes a habit and no longer requires the same degree of conscious effort.

[riser4]

Avoid people.
Take up telemark so people will avoid you.

And you can still shower. People will assume you don't, which is one reason they will avoid you. It's a win-win. Unless you're trying to get laid.

[old goat]

This is the key point:

"Kaptchuk says placebos won’t work for every medical situation—for example, they can’t lower cholesterol or cure cancer. But they can work for conditions that are defined by “self-observation” symptoms like pain, nausea, or fatigue."

Immune system function would seem to fall in the former category. Even those "self-observation" conditions don't justify giving your money to jackasses selling useless homeopathic treatments. Also, there is the "nocebo" effect to consider. In clinical trials it's common for people in the placebo arm to report experiencing the potential side effects of the drug that they are not actually taking.



In the long run, it's almost always harder to do the "easy" thing. But, if you do the "hard" thing long enough it becomes a habit and no longer requires the same degree of conscious effort.

The immune system can be considered "self observational" in the sense that people can say they get fewer colds (without actually counting them) or their colds aren't as bad since they started taking Omniscamium--which is the context we seem to be talking about in this thread. In the context of whether you die of Pneumocystis because your T cells don't work, yeah, placebos probably aren't much good.

[mooseknuckles]

sauna. Effect of a Single Finnish Sauna Session on White Blood Cell Profile and Cortisol Levels in Athletes and Non-Athletes

[skiJ]

Sick Season is around the corner. And I hate to miss on powdays or stellar skiing weeks. Plus the lost days after recovery were I still have to take it easy,
I dont like vegges . I eat fruit. An Apple a day, etc.
can I train my immune system?
Drinking my own urine is not an option.
What else.
I am aware this is the pd. but maybe you have an advice.
I dont take any meds or vitamin atm.

Thank you for this timely thread, twat - there is a lot of Good information in the posts already here, a few of my favorites cited below vvv

I am weighing in to add, Vaccination. 'training your immune system" is Exactly what Vaccination is intended to Do ! !!

IF you are Under ten years of age, or over Sixty years of age, maintaining current Vaccinations may be the additional step one can take to "train your immune system" > Influenza, covid, shingles, pnuemococcus, (tetanus) ;

I grieve the resistance to childhood vaccination ( I recently learned that an acquaintance from years ago, had survived polio in her youth. I never knew... )

I have the shittiest immune system and I swear one day it will be the death of me.

Some good stuff in here, except for homeopathy crap, but even then, I've caught myself going down that road due to desperation.

I am OCD so I will add:

-don't skip your annual exam & get blood work done, stay on top of things

-Gut health is imperative to a healthy immune system, among other things. When the gut is weak bad nasties will leak causing an immune shit storm. Take a good probiotic supplement. Lay off the gut-rotting coffee, or at least cut back.

-Have you ever had an allergy test done? Do you know what foods and other shit you might have a sensitivity to, but not actually allergic to? Even something as simple as eggs or certain fruits and veggies can cause inflammation. Fermented drinks or superfoods such as Kimchi, spinach, cheeses, dried meats, avocados can trigger an immune response to some ppl that have a histamine sensitivity, but that might be beyond the scope you are reaching for here.

-Some ppl have physical reactions to stress, avoid stressful situations as much as possible; it's just not good for your health.

-take your hygiene up a notch or two from where it is already- wash those hands & face more than you think, keep your fingers out of your mouth and nose- no picking, don't raw-dog gas pumps, public toilet flushes, (use your foot to flush), public door handles, public staircase railings, hotel tv remotes, anything on an airplane etc. with your hands without washing them immediately after. Those are major vectors. Things like elevator and ATM buttons, grocery store checkout buttons, crosswalk buttons are also disgusting; use the back of your hand, or elbow, not your digits since you can't wash your hands immediately after.

-Avoid highly congested places or minimize time spent there as much as possible and also places where sick people tend to go, such as pharmacies, Walgreens/CVS, hospitals, schools, airplanes, indoor concerts and churches.

Basically just be a hermit and you should be fine. We are a filthy virus spreading species.

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Fact.

I take vitamin D in large doses. I think it helps?

Going low carb seems to have resulted in better health for me. Supposedly it reduces overall inflammation, no idea if that is true.

Do you floss regularly? Having low level periodontal disease will definitely impact your frequency of getting sick. Flossing regularly and making sure that your teeth/gums are good can definitely help.

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This is very important observation - for those who have Not maintained good dental health, it creates a Very Real Risk for lots of infectious disease ! !!

Wash your hands. A lot. And keep them out of your god damned mouth and nose.

ditto. ^^^

a couple of posts promoted hydration -
I am not sure it is an immune system mechanism, but I certainly believe Good hydration is very important to good health.

also, we'll see where this next 'wave' of covid goes, but seeing the dramatic decrease in Influenza in 2021, as people were still masking in public, I will not dismiss the value of masking If you are in an area experiencing an outbreak of Influenza -
I do business in two businesses where the shopkeepers continue to mask due to immunocompromised family members ( I believe both involve cancer treatment protocols ) ; I do not go into those businesses unmasked - Just as a matter of courtesy.

and If you re over sixty, and want to "train your immune system", Vaccination has merit.


Good luck. skiJ

[twat]

Thank you for this timely thread, twat - there is a lot of Good information in the posts already here, a few of my favorites cited below vvv

I am weighing in to add, Vaccination. 'training your immune system" is Exactly what Vaccination is intended to Do ! !!

IF you are Under ten years of age, or over Sixty years of age, maintaining current Vaccinations may be the additional step one can take to "train your immune system" > Influenza, covid, shingles, pnuemococcus, (tetanus) ;

I grieve the resistance to childhood vaccination ( I recently learned that an acquaintance from years ago, had survived polio in her youth. I never knew... )




emphasis added ^^^




emphasis added ^^^
This is very important observation - for those who have Not maintained good dental health, it creates a Very Real Risk for lots of infectious disease ! !!




ditto. ^^^

a couple of posts promoted hydration -
I am not sure it is an immune system mechanism, but I certainly believe Good hydration is very important to good health.

also, we'll see where this next 'wave' of covid goes, but seeing the dramatic decrease in Influenza in 2021, as people were still masking in public, I will not dismiss the value of masking If you are in an area experiencing an outbreak of Influenza -
I do business in two businesses where the shopkeepers continue to mask due to immunocompromised family members ( I believe both involve cancer treatment protocols ) ; I do not go into those businesses unmasked - Just as a matter of courtesy.

and If you re over sixty, an want to "train your immune system", Vaccination has merit.


Good luck. skiJ

Yes this thread made me think
What can be achieved and how much my Immunsystems is genetically given.

ok professional vaccination is important for serious diseases.

I am often spending a week dealing with small stuff. Tonsillitis, sinus infection, norovirus etc.

Training - licking doorknob
Hermit - avoiding doorknobs
Snorting coke on toilets used to be a thing but those times gone. Luckily.

Maybe as a baby my environment was too clean??? I could blame my mother for this?

But as a 40year old what can I do?

I am observing now how much I hooger booger per day :?)

The extra vitamin pill could be a placebo too.

The vitamin d complex is I guess not my problem as I spent lot of time outdoors.

Cheers for all the input. Still looking for a really hot poo donor.

[bennymac]

Your body’s systems/functions work best when you are properly hydrated - so yes hydration is important for proper immune function. Something we need to be on top of especially during hot dry summers, at higher elevations, if you live where it’s dry in the winter, if your workplace has low humidity etc.

[twat]

Has anybody some inside knowledge in mushroom products?
Not the magic kind.
Is it Hokuspokus they are selling or legit. Most medicine come from mushroom. Penicillin etc.
I am talking about this alternative stuff..
Reads all a bit to much for my taste.
Cancer Alzheimer cardiac etc