2023 College Football Thread

[SumJongGuy]

It's also still worth pointing out that after a full season with a team given to him, but with his kids.. Deion LOST to North Carolina Central University in the NATTY end of last season. Great game but they did lose. That same NC Central got smashed by UCLA like 69-7 or something like that. last weekend Deion brings in 50 players from all over and now has a team that was 1-10 beating top 10 teams. Ya no cheating/NCAA violations happening there LOL!

[altacoup]

Did you read Deion's response to the death threats against the CSU safety? THAT is how you rebuke crappy behavior from your own side (politicians should take note). Brash, arrogant, loud? Yes. But classless? Hell no.

"Henry Blackburn is a good player who played a phenomenal game," Sanders said Tuesday. "He made a tremendous hit on Travis on the sideline. You could call it dirty, you could call it, 'He was just playing the game of football.' But whatever it was, it does not constitute that he should be receiving death threats. That this is still a young man trying to make it in life -- a guy that's trying to live his dream and hopefully graduate with honors or degree, committed to excellence and go to the NFL. He does not deserve a death threat over a game. [The death threats are] very unfortunate. I'm saddened if there's any of our fans that's on the other side of those threats -- I would hope and pray not. But that kid was just playing the best of his ability and he made a mistake. I forgive him. CU, our team forgives him. Travis, he's forgiven him. Let's move on. But that kid does not deserve that."

Good response on his part. I applaud him for that.

[The SnowShow]

Part of what Deion has brought together is a great staff. Not just talent from all over.

No program is clean. You’re delusional if you think so.

[SumJongGuy]

Part of what Deion has brought together is a great staff. Not just talent from all over.

No program is clean. You’re delusional if you think so.

Tru that. I'm a Sooner, Wife's a Tarheel. We've all been taken down before and will be again. There is a limit to how much shenannigans the NCAA (and other teams) will tolerate. It just all looks too good to be true without crossing that line. Don't be shocked it if is. I'll be shocked if they do investigate and don't find anything outrageous.

[The SnowShow]

Tru that. I'm a Sooner, Wife's a Tarheel. We've all been taken down before and will be again. There is a limit to how much shenannigans the NCAA (and other teams) will tolerate. It just all looks too good to be true without crossing that line. Don't be shocked it if is. I'll be shocked if they do investigate and don't find anything outrageous.

I hate being so pessimistic about it in general and yeah, it does look too good to be true. However, as good as CU has been vs 3 unranked teams (sorry, TCU shouldn’t have been ranked), the next 2 are going to tell a lot. Too bad it’ll be without Hunter.

[SumJongGuy]

I hate being so pessimistic about it in general and yeah, it does look too good to be true. However, as good as CU has been vs 3 unranked teams (sorry, TCU shouldn’t have been ranked), the next 2 are going to tell a lot. Too bad it’ll be without Hunter.

Buffs fans should just enjoy the ride. It takes eons for the NCAA to investigate even obvious shit and issue sanctions.. I don't think anyone was returning their 2005 USC Natty gear when they were stripped of that title over a year after the fact. For better or worse, the NCAA usually does let them play and sorts it out after the fact with shit like I suspect is happening there.

[californiagrown]

Buffs fans should just enjoy the ride. It takes eons for the NCAA to investigate even obvious shit and issue sanctions.. I don't think anyone was returning their 2005 USC Natty gear when they were stripped of that title over a year after the fact. For better or worse, the NCAA usually does let them play and sorts it out after the fact with shit like I suspect is happening there.

the new NIL rules remove the need for the vast majority of cheating. Almost all serious rules violations were impermissible benefits related, and related to the fact that the kids had no money so the schools paid for hookers, houses, cars, etc. Now the college kids, even high school recruits are getting paid so the schools dont really have to pay them or their family off. The rules violations now will just be calling/texting recruits when they shouldnt be, and practicing too much. Thats kind of it.

And also, like you said, if you aint cheating you aint trying. Everyone rounds off corners and pushes the boundary so its not really a competitive advantage and we should just enjoy the storylines now for what they are.

[goldenboy]

^^ Yeah, seriously. What rules are left to break anymore between the transfer portal and NIL?

As much fun as this has been as a CU fan, I'm fully expecting USC and Oregon to beat CU pretty handily these next 2 games. They won't run the table vs Utah, Oregon State, and Washington State either. But I have to think there are a ton of kids just waiting for signing day or the portal to open that want to play for CU next year with all the attention they're getting.

[EWG]

Did you read Deion's response to the death threats against the CSU safety? THAT is how you rebuke crappy behavior from your own side (politicians should take note). Brash, arrogant, loud? Yes. But classless? Hell no.

"Henry Blackburn is a good player who played a phenomenal game," Sanders said Tuesday. "He made a tremendous hit on Travis on the sideline. You could call it dirty, you could call it, 'He was just playing the game of football.' But whatever it was, it does not constitute that he should be receiving death threats. That this is still a young man trying to make it in life -- a guy that's trying to live his dream and hopefully graduate with honors or degree, committed to excellence and go to the NFL. He does not deserve a death threat over a game. [The death threats are] very unfortunate. I'm saddened if there's any of our fans that's on the other side of those threats -- I would hope and pray not. But that kid was just playing the best of his ability and he made a mistake. I forgive him. CU, our team forgives him. Travis, he's forgiven him. Let's move on. But that kid does not deserve that."

Yeah, I was happy to see that. Great stuff.

[BmillsSkier]

Finally some decent matchups on the schedule this weekend. Must be fall.

I don't know which fan base is going to be more butthurt Sunday morning but you've got a doozy between two of the best at that in tOSU and ND Saturday night.

[seano732]

Hey, I resemble that remark…

[SumJongGuy]

the new NIL rules remove the need for the vast majority of cheating. Almost all serious rules violations were impermissible benefits related, and related to the fact that the kids had no money so the schools paid for hookers, houses, cars, etc. Now the college kids, even high school recruits are getting paid so the schools dont really have to pay them or their family off. The rules violations now will just be calling/texting recruits when they shouldnt be, and practicing too much. Thats kind of it.

And also, like you said, if you aint cheating you aint trying. Everyone rounds off corners and pushes the boundary so its not really a competitive advantage and we should just enjoy the storylines now for what they are.

^^ Yeah, seriously. What rules are left to break anymore between the transfer portal and NIL?

As much fun as this has been as a CU fan, I'm fully expecting USC and Oregon to beat CU pretty handily these next 2 games. They won't run the table vs Utah, Oregon State, and Washington State either. But I have to think there are a ton of kids just waiting for signing day or the portal to open that want to play for CU next year with all the attention they're getting.

Academic requirements.. That's why I keep saying just wait until mid terms. What kind of students are all these kids who left their institutions to hop on the Deion Show? Most of you DGAF about these kids being students or getting a degree while they're there. So you're totally ignoring that dimension and REQIUREMENT.

And as for the portal. UNC Football has a kid who can't play this season because he transferred twice, but only after the full blessing and waivers from the other two schools.

[californiagrown]

Academic requirements.. That's why I keep saying just wait until mid terms. What kind of students are all these kids who left their institutions to hop on the Deion Show? Most of you DGAF about these kids being students or getting a degree while they're there. So you're totally ignoring that dimension and REQIUREMENT.

And as for the portal. UNC Football has a kid who can't play this season because he transferred twice, but only after the full blessing and waivers from the other two schools.

I read somewhere that to be eligible for sports at CU you cannot have two semesters in a row below a 2.0. So if the kids transferred in over the summer, they can get a 0.0 and still be eligible. I think. Dont quote me on that. But i believe academic eligibility based on GPA is determined school by school, not by the NCAA.

[SumJongGuy]

I read somewhere that to be eligible for sports at CU you cannot have two semesters in a row below a 2.0. So if the kids transferred in over the summer, they can get a 0.0 and still be eligible. I think. Dont quote me on that. But i believe academic eligibility based on GPA is determined school by school, not by the NCAA.

Looks like generally 2.0 give or take, a little higher to receive/keep and athletic scholarship..

Looks like football players only have to take 9 credit hours in the fall. That's a reasonable break. Did not know they didn't have to earn 12 technical full time" in the fall. There's an annual requirement of 24 though so they would have to do 15 in the spring or 3 over the summer to keep up.

[lowsparkco]

There are kids who are trying and successfully getting a top notch education while playing D1 football. But, most football schools also have hand picked courses that are hard to fail. At Georgia in the mid-nineties I knew starters on our football team and sorority girls who didn’t belong at that university. They generally sat next to each other when they attended classes in Child and Family Development.

[SumJongGuy]

There are kids who are trying and successfully getting a top notch education while playing D1 football. But, most football schools also have hand picked courses that are hard to fail. At Georgia in the mid-nineties I knew starters on our football team and sorority girls who didn’t belong at that university. They generally sat next to each other when they attended classes in Child and Family Development.

I took one for a grade padding elective.. Elementary School Art. Junior level 2 hour elective. I was the only guy in the class full of young female education majors. WINNING!

North Carolina got busted a couple years ago for "paper courses" that were deemed too easy,.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Univer...%20involvement.

[plugboots]

I took gymnastics for 1 hour of credit my senior year, (I was a gymnast on the team). I got an A.

[fatnslow]

I took gymnastics for 1 hour of credit my senior year, (I was a gymnast on the team). I got an A.

Are you saying the Sanders brothers are taking PE and playing flag football for credits ? It actually wouldn't surprise me.

[ColMan]

Had quite a few football players in a 'History of Jazz' class that I took at CU. Lecture on Tuesday, then different jazz bands would come in and jam on Thursdays. Awesome class actually. IIRC most of the football players were majoring in communication.

[skiSilent_skiDeep]

Are you saying the Sanders brothers are taking PE and playing flag football for credits ? It actually wouldn't surprise me.

not suprising at all.
i played three years of college baseball on a full-ride scholarship in the 90s. my favorite class of all-time and 'athlete-friendly' was Appreciation of Footbag Arts. i shit you not. i'd occasionally show up, drop in on a random circle and kick the hack sack around. the 'professor' would spark one up and lecture on the finer aspects of random esoteric buddist/toasist practices such as jianzi and other weirdness. the only assignment was to fill an empty rasta sack with your choice of medium and suture it closed. easiest A ever.
embarrassingly enough that course along with the remaining three years of athlete-specific coursework was practically tossed into the burn barrel when i decided to drop baseball and actually pursue a real degree.

[goldenboy]

Had quite a few football players in a 'History of Jazz' class that I took at CU. Lecture on Tuesday, then different jazz bands would come in and jam on Thursdays. Awesome class actually. IIRC most of the football players were majoring in communication.

Yep, or Sociology. If you can't make it through one of those majors with a whole team of tutors available to you, you better hope you're making it to the NFL.

I did hear that one of the things the previous CU coaching staffs complained about was that CU had really high transfer requirements academically. Prime was promised more leniency in that regard.

[SumJongGuy]

Are you saying the Sanders brothers are taking PE and playing flag football for credits ? It actually wouldn't surprise me.

Freshman year my first room mate was an OU corner back. I asked him if he'd play as a ringer on our intermural flag football team. He said he wasn't allowed to do stuff like that because the possibility of getting hurt. He ended up dropping out. Not sure if he was cut or just quit.. Sophomore and not living in the athletic dorm so he must have been on the bubble..

[fatnslow]

Had quite a few football players in a 'History of Jazz' class that I took at CU. Lecture on Tuesday, then different jazz bands would come in and jam on Thursdays. Awesome class actually. IIRC most of the football players were majoring in communication.

This is funny. I new a guy that went to Penn to play football as a engineering major. He figured out in a week that he was NEVER going to make it in that department even if he wasn't playing ball. He switched majors and all the players told him "history of jazz" was the easiest "A" on campus.

[EWG]

My dad was on scholie for wrestling at UConn. As a sociology/psychology major he got straight As with one exception - basketball. As a scholarship college athlete he barely passed basketball. I find that fucking hilarious and we, as a family with a bunch of basketball/soccer/baseball players in it, very much enjoy giving him a bunch of shit about that.

[SumJongGuy]

Oklahoma's playing these guys Saturday. I hope they don't forget to put the sauce packets in the bag like they usually do..



I've probably just cursed my team to an embarrassing loss. Crowing too SOONER..