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    But every school that left is going to make more than that. Now the PAC4 who have minimal TV value, couldíve agreed to unequal distribution and that wouldíve saved the PAC. But they said no and now OSU and WSU will be getting about 4 million in TV money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by californiagrown View Post
    Did Floridaman create that meme? Do people think the PNW in winter is warm or something?

    FWIW, ive played in all the conditions and by far the worst to play in was the nasty 39 degree rain games. The ball and field are slippery AF, everything is totally soaked and just miserable. Playing in snow is actually pretty fun because everything slows down, and the ball actually has some grip.

    Also, itís not like any of those Big10 teams actually practice outside in inclement weather- they all practice in indoor facilities because itís more productive. And they also have have their roster coming from warm weather states.
    Minnesota vs Iowa was 17F at kickoff last year, 1F with windchill. Things are different when everything is frozen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BmillsSkier View Post
    Oof, apparently Pac10 chancellors tuned down a $30MM per school deal with ESPN last year.

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    The real sad thing is Oregon State was really turning the corner as a decent football program but the essential relegation will stop their progress in their tracks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by altacoup View Post
    But every school that left is going to make more than that. Now the PAC4 who have minimal TV value, couldíve agreed to unequal distribution and that wouldíve saved the PAC. But they said no and now OSU and WSU will be getting about 4 million in TV money.
    Sure, but it wouldnít it have been nicer to get $30MM a school and keep the PAC together?

    Sounds to me like the PAC presidents got greedy and it bit em in the ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SumJongGuy View Post
    Confusing now with a 2nd PAC thread but let's tally up how many post WW2 Nattys the upcoming Big12/15 teams have combined.. I count ONE.
    BYU 1984

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    Quote Originally Posted by phatty View Post
    BYU 1984
    We got Baylor 1, BYU 1, CU 1. So I stand corrected..

    Post WWII Big12 Football Nattys

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    Quote Originally Posted by BmillsSkier View Post
    Sure, but it wouldn’t it have been nicer to get $30MM a school and keep the PAC together?

    Sounds to me like the PAC presidents got greedy and it bit em in the ass.
    covid put big holes in a bunch of budgets. If you are $20-30 million in the hole, $100million to play in the B1G is nice math for USC & UCLA

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    It's a pretty common belief that Lincoln Riley left Oklahoma because he didn't want to have to compete in the SEC. B1G's definitely more competitive than PAC was. He's run out of easier gigs to run away too hahahaha..
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    Sorry not sorry LOL.. And Dallas to Big12..

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    Quote Originally Posted by SumJongGuy View Post
    It's a pretty common belief that Lincoln Riley left Oklahoma because he didn't want to have to recruit in the SEC. B1G's definitely more competitive in recruiting than PAC was. He's run out of easier gigs to run away too hahahaha..
    FIFY

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    San Jose State hangs 21 on USC. How many points will Utah/Oregon/Washington/OSU put on the board against Lincoln Riley?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Reverend Floater View Post
    San Jose State hangs 21 on USC. How many points will Utah/Oregon/Washington/OSU put on the board against Lincoln Riley?

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    Why can't the PAC-12 find a TV audience on the west coast? Have all the football (American football anyway) fans left the west coast?

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...gnment/674930/

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatnslow View Post
    College sports as a whole will implode in the next 5-10 years where schools start eliminating a bunch of non revenue sports. Only thing left will be football, basketball and enough women's sports to offset the scholarship count of football to meet tital 9 requirements. Travel costs associated for non revenue teams/sports will cause serious financial issues rather quickly.
    Disagree.
    Go to a womans gymnastics meet in Utah or a wrestling match in Iowa or Penn State.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodsy View Post
    Disagree.
    Go to a womans gymnastics meet in Utah or a wrestling match in Iowa or Penn State.
    Take the total gate and divide by the number of schools there and estimate the travel costs of each program BEFORE they actually pay the staff.

    This is slightly outdated from 2020 but numbers don't lie.


    Institution Name Gymnasts Revenues Expenses Profits
    Louisiana State University 15 $609,398 $3,308,030 -$2,698,632
    University of Oklahoma-Norman Campus 18 $343,671 $2,971,978 -$2,628,307
    Auburn University 21 $296,117 $2,449,418 -$2,153,301
    University of Florida 16 $466,351 $2,509,306 -$2,042,955
    University of California-Los Angeles 22 $1,305,225 $3,347,748 -$2,042,523
    University of Michigan-Ann Arbor 18 $273,267 $2,151,356 -$1,878,089
    University of Utah 15 $893,606 $2,726,607 -$1,833,001
    Stanford University 18 $162,029 $1,840,848 -$1,678,819
    University of Arkansas 15 $370,671 $2,047,163 -$1,676,492
    University of Kentucky 19 $297,482 $1,971,606 -$1,674,124
    University of Iowa 20 $174,224 $1,760,781 -$1,586,557
    The University of Alabama 17 $1,120,208 $2,688,481 -$1,568,273
    University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 19 $172,185 $1,659,754 -$1,487,569
    University of Nebraska-Lincoln 18 $191,172 $1,652,432 -$1,461,260
    University of Minnesota-Twin Cities 20 $56,321 $1,408,205 -$1,351,884
    University of Washington-Seattle Campus 14 $598,030 $1,916,618 -$1,318,588
    Ohio State University-Main Campus 18 $156,798 $1,443,724 -$1,286,926
    Iowa State University 21 $227,898 $1,443,090 -$1,215,192
    Arizona State University-Tempe 18 $198,742 $1,380,804 -$1,182,062
    Michigan State University 18 $79,609 $1,159,112 -$1,079,503
    University of California-Berkeley 18 $285,270 $1,364,019 -$1,078,749
    University of Oregon 34 $137,275 $1,197,226 -$1,059,951
    University of Maryland-College Park 14 $297,006 $1,337,786 -$1,040,780
    University of Georgia 18 $1,507,302 $2,494,910 -$987,608
    University of Arizona 17 $601,748 $1,529,805 -$928,05

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    Sports are less than 2% of Stanfords budget. Get a fucking grip dude, the money at stake is peanuts to universities, and in sone cases the funds for the team don’t even come from the general fund. Football and basketball are gonna go somewhere else, but the others will somewhat stay because they get asses paying tuition. Fuck this place has way too many dads trying to get their kids (girls) into schools who don’t get how the sports work

    without shit filler sports on the B1G/SEC networks that yes, sone people actually watch, you are left with a PPV sports model that is substantially different

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodsy View Post
    Disagree.
    Go to a womans gymnastics meet in Utah..
    Only when LSU & Livvy Dunne are in town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarsB View Post
    Only when LSU & Livvy Dunne are in town.

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    Things must have changed as Red Rocks used to sell out the building on the reg 90- 2015

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    Quote Originally Posted by dunfree View Post
    Sports are less than 2% of Stanfords budget. Get a fucking grip dude, the money at stake is peanuts to universities, and in sone cases the funds for the team donít even come from the general fund. Football and basketball are gonna go somewhere else, but the others will somewhat stay because they get asses paying tuition. Fuck this place has way too many dads trying to get their kids (girls) into schools who donít get how the sports work

    without shit filler sports on the B1G/SEC networks that yes, sone people actually watch, you are left with a PPV sports model that is substantially different
    Tell that to all the state schools whose enrollment has skyrocket since football relevance. You think Alabama or Georgia are drawing folks from their academics alone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Reverend Floater View Post
    Tell that to all the state schools whose enrollment has skyrocket since football relevance. You think Alabama or Georgia are drawing folks from their academics alone?

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    Georgia and Alabama are very different academic environments. Not the same tier. Georgia has had very competitive admissions since 1995. Georgia had no problem fulfilling full enrollment and turning thousands of applicants away when the football team was awful. So, yes, Georgiaís academics alone are plenty of a draw.

    The Board of Regents were aggressively expanding enrollment for the last 25 years at UGA and it coincided with success in football for the last two years. Not related, but interesting theory.

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    I think college football should have been a minor league professional sport for thirty or forty years, itís finally happening organically with the portal and NIL money. Basketball is kinda moot with the 1 and done environment and G League. It will always be a little different because a 17 year old can feasibly compete in the NBA. Not so much in the NFL.

    Ironically, the College Football playoffs probably sped up the transition. All of the inaccuracy in naming a National Champion probably increased interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowsparkco View Post
    Georgia and Alabama are very different academic environments. Not the same tier. Georgia has had very competitive admissions since 1995. Georgia had no problem fulfilling full enrollment and turning thousands of applicants away when the football team was awful. So, yes, Georgia’s academics alone are plenty of a draw.

    The Board of Regents were aggressively expanding enrollment for the last 25 years at UGA and it coincided with success in football for the last two years. Not related, but interesting theory.
    There has been a significant uptick of kids from NY/NJ applying to SEC schools in the last decade or so. I don't know if football is the only reason (weather or the common app might be others) but I do think it's a factor. Walk onto an SEC campus and with the $$ football brings in (win or lose) you'll see beautiful new facilities and buildings that lesser sports schools can't compete with. This is attractive to kids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lowsparkco View Post
    I think college football should have been a minor league professional sport for thirty or forty years, it’s finally happening organically with the portal and NIL money. Basketball is kinda moot with the 1 and done environment and G League. It will always be a little different because a 17 year old can feasibly compete in the NBA. Not so much in the NFL.

    Ironically, the College Football playoffs probably sped up the transition. All of the inaccuracy in naming a National Champion probably increased interest.
    Naw, without the alumni and especially student support it's just another USFL/XFL failure. Jeanie's out of the bottle but I would have preferred it be pushed back to stricter "amateur" requirements. It's more important for these kids to graduate (with a legit EARNED degree) than it is for them to get drafted in to the NFL. It's more important to me that we have a clean program than it is to get a new Nattty shirt to wear to work mid January and rub it in to the other fans..

    But, I'm sure I'm in the minority on both those positions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Reverend Floater View Post
    Tell that to all the state schools whose enrollment has skyrocket since football relevance. You think Alabama or Georgia are drawing folks from their academics alone?

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    Tell them what? They both know their plans for expansion and skyrocketing enrollment began well before their football programs were winning championships again. However big the draw of those programs are for non participants are <10% of NCAA athletes play D1 football or basketball.

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    Sorry to break it to you gents but " college" football is a scam and has been for years.

    They prey on your pleasant memories, ecout rhe kids and make a lot of old white dudes rich.

    Find another passion

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