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    Screen Actors Guild Strike

    Here's hoping those poor, underpaid souls get the pay bump and benefits they so sorely deserve!

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/enter...s/70410271007/

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    Maybe this will cause people to actually go outside and do something with their lives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EWG View Post
    Maybe this will cause people to actually go outside and do something with their lives?
    Haha good luck with that

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    If everyone did what you suggest you would hate the crowds. Unless you like crowds.

    Two main issues I see.
    1- The artrists getting paid a pice of the profit when The Man makes money using the art. Residuals.

    2- Survival of the trade. The Man will has the same morals as a shark. The shark will
    continue to be feeed no matter how much food he has in his gut. Like The Man, only MORE will satisfy him. With AI, deep fake tech and thousands of distribution channels. The Man will no longer need artists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cisco Kid View Post
    If everyone did what you suggest you would hate the crowds. Unless you like crowds. .
    That was Covid for me. A whole bunch of people all of a sudden realized there were lakes and rivers and mountains all around and could be accessed simply by jumping in the car. I've never seen the woods so crowded.
    I still call it The Jake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EWG View Post
    Maybe this will cause people to actually go outside and do something with their lives?
    have you never seen porn on the internet before?

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    I mean, this has been brewing for a while with dvd sales dying and streaming not really giving the residuals people used to get. Remember that most union deal stuff is for regular actors and not as much the superstars. Also it's not like studio execs are shining beacons of humanity that are chronically underpaid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamond Joe View Post
    Here's hoping those poor, underpaid souls get the pay bump and benefits they so sorely deserve!

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/enter...s/70410271007/
    figures a dumb cunt like you would think some background actor should have to give away their likeness in AI perpetuity for a days work

    jesus fucking Christ usatoday

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    Time for the little people in Hollyweird to F.I.S.T. one another.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dunfree View Post
    figures a dumb cunt like you would think some background actor should have to give away their likeness in AI perpetuity for a days work

    jesus fucking Christ usatoday
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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong View Post
    I wonder about this. AI is another industrial revolution. So many jobs that people do "by hand" or personally right now will be replaced by bots. Why do they even need actors? Why not AI fake an "extra" and just use them for the movie? And is there anything wrong with that?

    The world is gonna be a very, very different place in 20 years.

    I love music. I play guitar. I have friends that are in bands making their livings. Have you heard the AI fake Beatles music? It's shockingly decent, and will be quite hard to identify with a few years of algorithm improvements I'm sure. Why do we need pop stars when machines can do it? I hope the answer to that is creativity and our desire to have actual human heros. Which would mean that movie stars stay, but why do we need extras anymore, and how is that different than CGI?

    I have questions.

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    OP has a shit take. This seems like a moment for labor. Writers, SAG-AFTRA, ongoing Teamsters negotiations. A couple other smaller unions are striking. Maybe it has some staying power.

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    wow its almost like hundreds of people work on a movie besides yer Tom cruise or yer J- lo
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    Quote Originally Posted by EWG View Post
    I wonder about this. AI is another industrial revolution. So many jobs that people do "by hand" or personally right now will be replaced by bots. Why do they even need actors? Why not AI fake an "extra" and just use them for the movie? And is there anything wrong with that?

    The world is gonna be a very, very different place in 20 years.

    I love music. I play guitar. I have friends that are in bands making their livings. Have you heard the AI fake Beatles music? It's shockingly decent, and will be quite hard to identify with a few years of algorithm improvements I'm sure. Why do we need pop stars when machines can do it? I hope the answer to that is creativity and our desire to have actual human heros. Which would mean that movie stars stay, but why do we need extras anymore, and how is that different than CGI?

    I have questions.
    You have good questions but the right now AI work is all quite obviously derivative (you can argue that all art is derivative but artists tend to have a bit more originality). If we use the AI models as they exist now we're regressing to the mediocrity of the mean; big companies will produce bland art for the sake of appealing to the masses or what market research groups tell them (assuming the market research hasn't been outsourced to AI as well). How art makes people strongly respond positively or negatively will likely cease to exist, and we kind of miss out on the human experience.

    Also what Mazderati said–after watching black mirror s6e1 you can see why all the actors want policies dictating their likenesses fully laid out

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    Absolutely think actors should be able to control how their likeness is used.

    Also, even if AI ultimately does take over, thereís no reason actors should expedite that happening for a single dayís pay.

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    Ron Perlman is a scary motherfucker

    Letís do Danny Trejo next

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    Fran pre boob job.. Excellent movie if you've never ween the whole thing..



    I'm 100% pro collective bargaining. I just hope all my Amazon Prime orders arrive before the UPS strike.
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    Too bad Clay was a fictional character otherwise that exec would be shart city now

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    Quote Originally Posted by dunfree View Post
    figures a dumb cunt like you would think some background actor should have to give away their likeness in AI perpetuity for a days work

    jesus fucking Christ usatoday
    You're making it out like the ONLY issue is the concerns with AI. "The (SAG) members addressed a number of issues that are important to them when it comes to negotiations, including minimum pay, residuals that consider the growth of streaming, healthcare, pensions..."

    MONEY is their first issue listed (in the letter penned by 300 membrers of the SAG). This is coming from a union who's Basic Theatrical Agreement lists minimum pay, for one days work, at over $1000. For ONE DAYS work.

    "We feel that our wages, our craft, our creative freedom, and the power of our union have all been undermined in the last decade..." Sorry if I'm having a hard time finding sympathy for you and your lack of decent wages

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamond Joe View Post
    You're making it out like the ONLY issue is the concerns with AI. "The (SAG) members addressed a number of issues that are important to them when it comes to negotiations, including minimum pay, residuals that consider the growth of streaming, healthcare, pensions..."

    MONEY is their first issue listed (in the letter penned by 300 membrers of the SAG). This is coming from a union who's Basic Theatrical Agreement lists minimum pay, for one days work, at over $1000. For ONE DAYS work.

    "We feel that our wages, our craft, our creative freedom, and the power of our union have all been undermined in the last decade..." Sorry if I'm having a hard time finding sympathy for you and your lack of decent wages
    I can't remember the last time I hired a plumber or an electrician where the bill for an entire day's work was less than $1,000. Keep in mind there's almost always significant travel involved. It's not like these productions just happen to be in the same town where the actors actually live..
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    Speaking of poor, underpaid souls, Iger made 27MM last year. Zaslav made something like 45.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamond Joe View Post
    You're making it out like the ONLY issue is the concerns with AI. "The (SAG) members addressed a number of issues that are important to them when it comes to negotiations, including minimum pay, residuals that consider the growth of streaming, healthcare, pensions..."

    MONEY is their first issue listed (in the letter penned by 300 membrers of the SAG). This is coming from a union who's Basic Theatrical Agreement lists minimum pay, for one days work, at over $1000. For ONE DAYS work.

    "We feel that our wages, our craft, our creative freedom, and the power of our union have all been undermined in the last decade..." Sorry if I'm having a hard time finding sympathy for you and your lack of decent wages
    im not an actor or anyway involved with that industry you ignorant slut, but you keep waging your war of resentment from whatever flyover shithole you call home

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    How many auditions and casting calls does the typical actor go to get that rich $1000 for a day of work?
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