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    Best tuning kit

    Anyone have any edge tuning favorites? Or just buy the pieces individually?

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    If you buy an edge tuning tool you will immediately be relegated to TGR gaper status. Because angles are just so darn complex there's no way anybody could ever design a tool to get it right.

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    I find this works great for keeping my small quiver in shape:

    https://www.tools4boards.com/orb-8-w...edger-kit.html

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    That orb looks cool.

    I like the sks tool https://www.tognar.com/fk-multi-edge-tuning-tool/
    Comes with a file, youíll also need a diamond stone or two that fits. Some places sell kits.

    But honestly, get an 2-degree edge guide, a 1 degree beast style base guide, a clamp, a file, and a diamond stone or two and you are set. I also have a 3-degree edge guide for some skis but everything gets a 1-degree base.

    Easy to use, can take any size file/stone, and youíll never forget to adjust the damn tool and realize youíve been hitting your base with a 2-degree bevel.

    The sks is nice for in a travel bag or if you want to keep your tuning kit tiny, but the real guides donít exactly take up space or require more skill. I guess it is also nice if you want to do something stupid like experiment with a 0.5/4.5 base/side bevel combo

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    Quote Originally Posted by mf12d0 View Post
    Anyone have any edge tuning favorites? Or just buy the pieces individually?
    If you intend to tune multiple pairs of skis per season and keep at it, buy the pieces separately like the pros do.

    I have 1, 2, and 3 degree side edge bevel guides with clamps (I like Sun Valley Ski Tools, most recreational tuners are fine with the all-aluminum one but some of mine have the stainless plate) and keep each clamped to their own Panzer file all the time. I also have a 0 degree clamp on a 10" mill bastard all the time for sharpening scrapers. I write "1," "2," and "3" on the guides in multiple places to make sure I grab the right one. The $.99 clamps at Home Depot seem to work as well as any of the others.

    I have more grits, etc. but what I use most is the Panzers (to set the bevel), a 200 Diamond Stone (prefer Moonflex but there are other good ones) and a 400 Diamond Stone. Get 100mm lengths in all of them, not 70mm. I seldom use the 100 or 600 (actually the 100 diamond stone sits by the bench to smooth rock damage before the good files touch them). Be sure to keep the diamond stones clean and lubed, I use a toothbrush and 50/50 water/rubbing alcohol solution while working - if you do, they'll cut better and last a long time.

    My base edge guide is Swix, and it's fine, but I seldom use it. (I have access to a nice Wintersteiger stone grinder if needed). For the rest, I mostly just use the 2 degree side edge guide on most skis a few times per winter, I use the 3 degree on race-type skis and in the middle of some groomer skis, and the 1 degree on skis over 115mm in the waist. Almost all maintenance tuning usually is done on the side edges, not the base.

    Keep your files clean with a file card or brass brush.

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    To add, often forgotten is a sidewall removal option. A planer is best, but you can use a coarse file (panzer) at 6 to 7 degrees.
    Best regards, Terry
    (Direct Contact is best vs PMs)

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    If sidewalls are getting in the way, I just plane them away with the side of a metal scraper held freehand on the edge (tilted a little bit towards the top of the ski)

    Seems to work? Is that bad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by singlesline View Post
    If sidewalls are getting in the way, I just plane them away with the side of a metal scraper held freehand on the edge (tilted a little bit towards the top of the ski)

    Seems to work? Is that bad?
    Interesting. As long as you are getting the sidewall material out of the way for a stone or diamond to cut the side edge accurately, then it sounds like you are good. Mark of Ski Visions advocated using the end of the base flattener steel bar to cut side walls. In a pinch I've freehanded with a panzer. You can tape shims to side edge guides to increase the angle. Multi-angle guides give you a more controlled option. Sand paper could work or clean up any cutting tool you decide to use on your skis.
    Best regards, Terry
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeahman View Post
    If you buy an edge tuning tool you will immediately be relegated to TGR gaper status. Because angles are just so darn complex there's no way anybody could ever design a tool to get it right.
    I'm a gaper. I've always used this and been happy: https://www.slidewright.com/skivisio...uning-tool.php

    edited to use the mag-approved link.
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    This is my gaper setup. I did buy two of these tools so I do not need to move the files between base and side bevel. I rarely use the colored diamond files.



    Whole shebang is garbage though and prevents me from unlocking my full skiing potential.

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    Buy one of everything Terry has.
    watch out for snakes

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeahman View Post
    This is my gaper setup. I did buy two of these tools so I do not need to move the files between base and side bevel. I rarely use the colored diamond files.



    Whole shebang is garbage though and prevents me from unlocking my full skiing potential.
    I have this tool also and it works well. Recommend.

    When our son wen to college we bought him a Racewax kit. It was like $75 on sale in the late summer. That has worked out well - decent kit for a reasonable price. Good route to go.

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    I have an identical set up with two tools to speed up the process. The tools set was part of the swag that was provided when I was unwillingly inducted into the Shameful Society of Gapers. I have a coarse diamond file that has aluminum versus plastic substrate that I had to trim to fit the guide which is great for removing long burrs from whacking rocks. If only proper base repairs were so easy, but there is always JB Weld which lasts until the next patch of scree.

    Quote Originally Posted by yeahman View Post

    Whole shebang is garbage though and prevents me from unlocking my full skiing potential.

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    JB Marine weld works great, I never use anything else anymore. Never once has it failed on me. Can't believe I used to pay to have core shots fixed.

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    Ha, I was using plain old Ace hardware JB Weld. Now I am about to up my game with JB Marine because of the tip from the wise man from Helena.
    Quote Originally Posted by yeahman View Post
    JB Marine weld works great, I never use anything else anymore. Never once has it failed on me. Can't believe I used to pay to have core shots fixed.

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