Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 59
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Location
    on the banks of Fish Creek
    Posts
    7,512

    Ikon buys Schweitzer


  2. #2
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Where the sheets have no stains
    Posts
    22,063
    Well, better than Vail?????
    I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.

    "Happiest years of my life were earning < $8.00 and hour, collecting unemployment every spring and fall, no car, no debt and no responsibilities. 1984-1990 Park City UT"

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    you see a tie dye disc in there?
    Posts
    4,652
    Quote Originally Posted by m2711c View Post
    never skied schweitzer, be nice for a few days on IKON next winter

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    33,546
    Wasn't it already an Ikon pass partner?
    Quote Originally Posted by Downbound Train View Post
    And there will come a day when our ancestors look back...........

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    you see a tie dye disc in there?
    Posts
    4,652
    Quote Originally Posted by PNWbrit View Post
    Wasn't it already an Ikon pass partner?
    shit, I think your right, I was planning a trip pre vid days but never been back on the list.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Sep 2021
    Location
    Lost in the PNWet
    Posts
    369
    Guess they figured they need at least one resort in the PNW that (presumably) will have unlimited days

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Posts
    665
    Sorry my crusty old man is coming out.
    Where is the FTC. Monopolies/Oligopolies are proven to be bad for consumers.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Posts
    1,218
    Quote Originally Posted by Ørion View Post
    Guess they figured they need at least one resort in the PNW that (presumably) will have unlimited days
    If this was the motivation, it was a weak one. No major population hubs, most people were already linking it into powder highway trips and 5-7 days is plenty when you have other resorts to move on towards

    My suspicion is that Schweitzer may not have been in great shape financially

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Spokane/Schweitzer
    Posts
    6,741
    Quote Originally Posted by Huskydoc View Post
    If this was the motivation, it was a weak one. No major population hubs, most people were already linking it into powder highway trips and 5-7 days is plenty when you have other resorts to move on towards

    My suspicion is that Schweitzer may not have been in great shape financially
    Schweitzer was doing fine, financially. It's been busier than ever, has the highest prices in the region, is making out on new real estate development, and has (had) deep pockets in ownership. It's doing just fine.

    KSL (parent of Alterra) purchased the Davenport Hotels in Spokane just over a year ago, not long after the Ikon partnership agreement with Schweitzer. You could see this coming. They are working to make this a regional (West Coast) destination trip. With Seattle and Crystal not too far away, this becomes an extended weekend getaway locale that will serve that market. We've already had plenty of Ikon traffic but this will only add further to it. It's a business strategy that will probably work well for the Ikon masses in the great PNW/West Coast to Denver area. For the locals? Not so much...

    I'm not real happy to see this but am not at all surprised. We could see this coming a few years ago with the investments MKM were making into the mountain and real estate development. I just hope we don't suffer from the same overselling that other Ikon and Epic resorts have had to deal with. If we do, I'm probably out of there and off to 49 Degrees North as my home hill. It's not as good but it's not as shit-showy as I'm afraid Schweitzer may wind up being.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Posts
    1,218
    Quote Originally Posted by GoldMember View Post
    Schweitzer was doing fine, financially. It's been busier than ever, has the highest prices in the region, is making out on new real estate development, and has (had) deep pockets in ownership. It's doing just fine.

    KSL (parent of Alterra) purchased the Davenport Hotels in Spokane just over a year ago, not long after the Ikon partnership agreement with Schweitzer. You could see this coming. They are working to make this a regional (West Coast) destination trip. With Seattle and Crystal not too far away, this becomes an extended weekend getaway locale that will serve that market. We've already had plenty of Ikon traffic but this will only add further to it. It's a business strategy that will probably work well for the Ikon masses in the great PNW/West Coast to Denver area. For the locals? Not so much...

    I'm not real happy to see this but am not at all surprised. We could see this coming a few years ago with the investments MKM were making into the mountain and real estate development
    I don't follow. They bought a hotel almost 2 hours from the resort catering to -not- the type to consider visiting Schweitzer. And then they bought Schweitzer to gain what advantage with respect to their hotel and other real to estate? By your logic about the getaway crowd they should have bought Bachelor...

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Spokane/Schweitzer
    Posts
    6,741
    Don't get me wrong, I don't think they bought the Davenport Hotels just to make a play on getting skiers to Spokane in order to ski at Schweitzer. Those hotels do very well on their own. And I don't think they bought Schweitzer just because they now own some hotels in Spokane. However, it does make a nice little add-on for their hotel business to be able to offer having a ski resort not too far from downtown Spokane, especially for the typically slow months where occupancy at the hotels may not be otherwise up to other seasonal rates. Jan-Mar in Spokane is typically kind of quiet for travel business and Sandpoint doesn't have a lot of room availability so I could see where they may make some package deals that get people here who also would use their ski resort. That said, it's a minor tie-in relative to the base business of both operations.

    And, by the way, I do think those visiting the Davenports would very likely be Schweitzer-type skiers. We get a lot of people from Seattle on extended weekends, etc. who would be likely Davenport customers. For the kind of hotels they are, their rates are really pretty damn reasonable.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Idaho
    Posts
    10,953
    And their mattresses are delightful.
    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    Well, I'm not allowed to delete this post, but, I can say, go fuck yourselves, everybody!

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Paper St. Soap Co.
    Posts
    3,303
    I found this part interesting:
    "MKM Trust, which has been the owner and developer of Schweitzer for the past 18 years, will retain non-ski operations and will continue to lead future real estate development."

    So guessing wasn't all that expensive for alterra. With all the easy flights to GEG from CA, that place is going to get slammed in a low snow CA/UT year.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Inside the Circle
    Posts
    4,167
    ^ That's a similar arrangement to what Vail has at Stowe...

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Movin' On
    Posts
    3,716
    Quote Originally Posted by turnfarmer View Post
    Sorry my crusty old man is coming out.
    Where is the FTC. Monopolies/Oligopolies are proven to be bad for consumers.
    The FTC was last heard from in the 1980s when they broke up some large telcos. They've since let those broken up telcos merge into oligopolies.

    It's so exceedingly rare for the FTC or DOJ to do anything to block mergers and acquisitions these days.

  16. #16
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    67
    Quote Originally Posted by turnfarmer View Post
    Sorry my crusty old man is coming out.
    Where is the FTC. Monopolies/Oligopolies are proven to be bad for consumers.
    ~750 ski areas in the US/Canada and Vail/Alterra own around 65 of them.

  17. #17
    Join Date
    Apr 2016
    Posts
    213
    What if you look at it in terms of numbers of skier visits? I imagine that would be a lot higher than 10% for Alterra/Vail since they own the biggest/busiest resorts.


    Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums

  18. #18
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Wildside
    Posts
    137
    This is a moronic use of statistics.
    Those 65 resorts capture a massive amount of the industry.

  19. #19
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Alpental
    Posts
    6,564
    Anyone else getting the glossy multi-page come-to-Schweitzer/Sandpoint summer marketing?
    Move upside and let the man go through...

  20. #20
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Posts
    1,153
    I wonder if Im still going to get my three free days with my Loveland (Powder Alliance) Pass?

  21. #21
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Spokane/Schweitzer
    Posts
    6,741
    Quote Originally Posted by Mofro261 View Post
    Anyone else getting the glossy multi-page come-to-Schweitzer/Sandpoint summer marketing?
    Nah... You're from Seattle which is their prime marketing target. They don't waste the money on the rest of us who are captive to their ploys...

  22. #22
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Missoula, MT
    Posts
    22,462
    Wish my season pass came with any other mountains. Schweitzer isn't even terribly far from me.
    Instead, I just get my rent raised.
    No longer stuck.

    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Just an uneducated guess.

  23. #23
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Posts
    1,153
    Powder Alliance is a pretty good deal. For the cost of a Loveland pass in the spring I get to enjoy good skiing at some pretty good independent places. Not the most rad places but I like the independent ski area vibe and make sure I spend some money while there on swag and food/drinks.

  24. #24
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Location
    on the banks of Fish Creek
    Posts
    7,512
    The ski Cooper pass is worth picking up just for all of the pass partners.

    pretty cheap if you get it at the early-season rate.


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	IMG_4214.jpg 
Views:	77 
Size:	567.1 KB 
ID:	463401


    fact.

  25. #25
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Posts
    1,153
    $379.00 for a pass before 7/1 is worth it just for the Cooper pass let alone all of the add on independent ski areas. If you travel quite a bit the independent pass hook ups are worth it 100%. Last year I skied Loveland a whole bunch, Cooper, Snowbowl AZ, Brianhead, Sierra At Tahoe (for a huge three day dump), Angel Fire, Snow King, and Mission Ridge just on my Loveland pass. I also keep an Alta gold pass to pay as I ski (50% off) which I paid $90.00 for 23/24. I had an Alta/Bird pass when I worked out of Elko and I knew I could get the days and make it pay. The low key Indi resorts are the ticket, get in early, park up front, ski your ass off, have a few beers, repeat. I don't care about the real estate, or time share buy ins. I just want to get into a motel, ski, eat local, and then come back next chance I get.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •