Soft Snow Gymkhana - The Heritage Lab FR110

[The Iron Horse]

God dammit. The 132…. I don’t need it.

Same exact thought I had.

[Marshal Olson]

You're in luck. Just got an email an hour ago that a few select skis are getting a second pressing for the 24/25 holidays. (I assume the December 2025 is a typo based on the rest of the email)
You can pre-order a pair now. https://heritagelabskis.com/collecti...-2025-preorder

thanks yes! I fixed the landing page to be more clear!

[Marshal Olson]

What would you say should be a 70/30 low tide/more on piste replacement for a 184 MX98 (red tip) for 170# in shape over 60 dude?

Think Tahoe mixed condition and travel ski
187 RC95 seems a tad long;
186 RC105 a little wide and overlaps a bit with my 186 FR110, which is more like 35 piste/65 off piste.
183 RC85 may be a bit narrow for a travel ski.


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great topic! Regarding the 184 MX98, I would say that and the Monster series skis might be some of the most substantial “184” skis made. Does the amount of “demanding” it possesses feel right for you?

the reason I ask is because the 187 rc95 is a more forward mount (-10 vs -12), had has some tail rocker, and a bit less camber, so it’s going to be quite maneuverable off piste compared to the MX98, while having comparable effective edge lengths.

[powder_to_the_people]

Marshal: are the FR110s sold out for the rest of the 24/25 season, or will there be a restock during the winter? Asking for a friend...

Argh, not in the longer length though...?

[Marshal Olson]

I have the long r110 coming. I can definitely do a run of 193 FR110 too. I’ll add it now.

Edit - it’s live

[N1CK.]

I have the long r110 coming. I can definitely do a run of 193 FR110 too. I’ll add it now.

Edit - it’s live

my girlfriend think's you're leaving out all the short folks and wishes there was a 165 in the mix.

[Marshal Olson]

She is one hell of a skier. 165 is her ideal ski length? I really want to offer such a thing.

I’d love to get a little group of ladies together to collab and select the right topsheets for em too. For anyone reading this with ripping skier ladies in their lives that could be a fit for a 165ish 110, please hit me up via dm/text/email

[N1CK.]

She is one hell of a skier. 165 is her ideal ski length? I really want to offer such a thing.

I’d love to get a little group of ladies together to collab and select the right topsheets for em too. For anyone reading this with ripping skier ladies in their lives that could be a fit for a 165ish 110, please hit me up via dm/text/email

for a shape like the FR110? yes. her DD is that old volkl two (?) in a 166. I'll shoot you an email!

[arild]

Fuck yes, Marshal! We've talked about shorties since the beginningz of the 110s!

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[54-46]

great topic! Regarding the 184 MX98, I would say that and the Monster series skis might be some of the most substantial “184” skis made. Does the amount of “demanding” it possesses feel right for you?

the reason I ask is because the 187 rc95 is a more forward mount (-10 vs -12), had has some tail rocker, and a bit less camber, so it’s going to be quite maneuverable off piste compared to the MX98, while having comparable effective edge lengths.

Great nuance. Yeah, the MX98 on piste is perfect for mach schnell cruising. Bumps are OK, and tight spots are work. Will think on this…


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[bw_wp_hedonism]

She is one hell of a skier. 165 is her ideal ski length? I really want to offer such a thing.

I’d love to get a little group of ladies together to collab and select the right topsheets for em too. For anyone reading this with ripping skier ladies in their lives that could be a fit for a 165ish 110, please hit me up via dm/text/email

I am going to try to put my wife onto this…

[forumskier]

I use bathroom silicone adhesive from the hardware store for this sort of thing. It is quite solid, with great bond, and highly waterproof, but easy enough to remove when needed too.

Is this similar to what you are talking about? GE Silicon 2



If it is similar, do you know if it expands a lot during cure?

Besides putting it in the screw holes, what happens if I put some on the underside of the demo plate and topsheet? Expansion and bad? I’ve had one binding mount like that before where the “glue” was also on the underneath surface of the binding platform as well as the topsheet. Idk what glue/epoxy was used, but it added retention and was hard to remove bindings after screws out. Not so hard that it damaged anything, but I did have to chip a little off topsheet. Didn’t seem to expand much and didnt cause any major rise off the topsheet whatsoever. Asked same question in binding mount. thread

[adrenalated]

^^^ I have never used it on skis but IME using it on lots of other things, any 100% silicone does not expand at all.

[Mustonen]

I use blue silicone gasket. Doesn’t expand, stays flexible throughout a high temp band, adheres well but can be removed with a little bit of elbow grease. Yeti turned me on to it.

It will never come out of clothes, though. Or the living room rug.

[pfluffenmeister]

Is this similar to what you are talking about? GE Silicon 2



If it is similar, do you know if it expands a lot during cure?

Besides putting it in the screw holes, what happens if I put some on the underside of the demo plate and topsheet? Expansion and bad? I’ve had one binding mount like that before where the “glue” was also on the underneath surface of the binding platform as well as the topsheet. Idk what glue/epoxy was used, but it added retention and was hard to remove bindings after screws out. Not so hard that it damaged anything, but I did have to chip a little off topsheet. Didn’t seem to expand much and didnt cause any major rise off the topsheet whatsoever. Asked same question in binding mount. thread

Ooh, 193s?

[Marshal Olson]

I use blue silicone gasket. Doesn’t expand, stays flexible throughout a high temp band, adheres well but can be removed with a little bit of elbow grease. Yeti turned me on to it.

It will never come out of clothes, though. Or the living room rug.

I’m with this feedback too.

the 100% silicon won’t expand, has really nice adhesive quality, and “peels off” when you pull bindings, just like if you pulling a bead of sealant off grout/tile or countertop/drywall.

It can Stickk your bindings to the ski quite well, even after the screws are out, but the binding will pop right off with a metal scraper. And excess silicon pulls right off the top of skis or bottom of binding.

[forumskier]

Ooh, 193s?

Yes sir. Hopefully mounting them tonight. Such a fun ski, Bry let me put 5 good runs on his pair last winter and I instantly knew I needed to have a pair.

I was worried when the previous order was sold out. This used pair popped up in the HL outlet on my birthday, and I thought it was a “sign” so I jumped on them same day. Thankfully for others MO opened up another order recently. I actually thought a little bit about buying a fresh pair, but probably will wait til next season since this used pair is in excellent shape. Hopefully this model sticks around for a while.

Almost jumped on those big dog FL113s in the outlet yesterday, but they gone! Thought about R99s as well, good score!

[FloridaSnow]

Is this similar to what you are talking about? GE Silicon 2



If it is similar, do you know if it expands a lot during cure?

Besides putting it in the screw holes, what happens if I put some on the underside of the demo plate and topsheet? Expansion and bad? I’ve had one binding mount like that before where the “glue” was also on the underneath surface of the binding platform as well as the topsheet. Idk what glue/epoxy was used, but it added retention and was hard to remove bindings after screws out. Not so hard that it damaged anything, but I did have to chip a little off topsheet. Didn’t seem to expand much and didnt cause any major rise off the topsheet whatsoever. Asked same question in binding mount. thread

just always check the temp ranges. Some don’t handle freezing temps as well. Most have a super wide range but some weird options are either for very cold or very hot only.

[arild]

My go to has been outside rated wood glue, basically some sort of polyurethane. Works great!

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[Bandit Man]

Nice to see the 193 FR110 in the 2025 Blister Gear Guide. Cool to see their write up and how it got top marks for suspension and damping in its category. Nice to see a few other HL skis make the guide, too.


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[K1mJ0ngTr1ll]

Nice to see the 193 FR110 in the 2025 Blister Gear Guide. Cool to see their write up and how it got top marks for suspension and damping in its category. Nice to see a few other HL skis make the guide, too.


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I thought I knew what suspension was.... Then I skied an HL.

[L8APX]

I thought I knew what suspension was.... Then I skied an HL.

Second this, which is why I’ll have 5 pairs of HL this season.

[forumskier]

What should be my second pair of HLs? Hmmmm


Marshal, were you testing those full rocker Mantras that you are selling?

I love M4 Mantra in 191, so good in giant, firm and cruddy moguls and other tight spots. Wondering if you were testing for some current or future R model.

[pfluffenmeister]

What should be my second pair of HLs? Hmmmm


Marshal, were you testing those full rocker Mantras that you are selling?

I love M4 Mantra in 191, so good in giant, firm and cruddy moguls and other tight spots. Wondering if you were testing for some current or future R model.

You're set in the middle.
What do you need?
Skinny or fat?

All the Heritage Lab skis that I have been on (4 to date), have been best in class.
I've been telling people to have confidence in buying blind.

[jackattack]

What should be my second pair of HLs? Hmmmm


Marshal, were you testing those full rocker Mantras that you are selling?

I love M4 Mantra in 191, so good in giant, firm and cruddy moguls and other tight spots. Wondering if you were testing for some current or future R model.

Go back in time and buy r99 comps.