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  1. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2FUNKY View Post
    Yep, loved my pair of goliaths.


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    Same.
    Great ski.

    Quote Originally Posted by waveshello View Post
    Harlaut pivots would look sweet 🤌
    I have a new pair awaiting my FL105s!
    Super stoked!

  2. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshal Olson View Post
    Don't worry... HALS-era Rens will have a suitable replacement shortly too
    Hopefully w/ a much damper build than the HALS era Rens. One of the more transmitty skis I've ever been on.

  3. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshal Olson View Post
    Yup, arild and Gaijin nailed it -- with one quick extra thing. A little extra taper in the ski -> slightly shorter effective edge -> less sidecut flare at the ends -> narrower tip width relative to others -> less hooky

    The downside of course is that clean carves with this geometry are a little more reliant on technique to bend and load, as a wide shovel just needs to be tipped (roll the ankles) to engage the sidecut, with the ski pulling the skier into a turn.
    Thanks for the responses guys. I'd probably prefer 135 ish like the Goliath or BMX. Would love to try them though if anyone comes the Jackson way with them next winter!

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  4. #29
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    Complete thread jack here - arild I sent you a pm about current Norway snow conditions

    Also I’m gonna buy a lottery ticket today and when I win I’m going to order one of each model of Heritage Lab skis. You guys appear to be hitting home runs non-stop with these releases. It’s impressive.

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    When is preorder closing for these hot rods. I just got whacked by the tax man so I need to recoup that but definitely snagging a pair. This might be the replacement for my DD Corvus…. Pretty stoked.

  6. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by bennymac View Post
    Complete thread jack here - arild I sent you a pm about current Norway snow conditions

    Also I’m gonna buy a lottery ticket today and when I win I’m going to order one of each model of Heritage Lab skis. You guys appear to be hitting home runs non-stop with these releases. It’s impressive.
    Will read right away. (Didn't see any new stuff, do i need to doucher le box?)

    And thanks. I'm risk free in this venture, so MO deserves all the praise. Glad people like the skis though.

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  7. #32
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    I'm in! Stoked for them to arrive!

  8. #33
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    Noice!


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    Hell yeah!


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  10. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoVT Joey View Post
    When is preorder closing for these hot rods. I just got whacked by the tax man so I need to recoup that but definitely snagging a pair. This might be the replacement for my DD Corvus…. Pretty stoked.
    Emailed you. Let's sort it! Happy to help and lineup something creative.

  11. #36
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    pretty pretty. could i ski the 192 in 2k treed vert, would i just take it to switzerland, or should i wait for next years 188/9 run?

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    A 178 carbon version of this could be what I’m looking for…..all around midwinter touring, light enough for longer outings. I’ll be staying tuned.


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  13. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by shroom View Post
    pretty pretty. could i ski the 192 in 2k treed vert, would i just take it to switzerland, or should i wait for next years 188/9 run?
    Depends on your size and other skis you like, but at 5'10/200lbs, I'm going 192 for a bit of everything, as long as the visibility is OK. 185s for lower vis.

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  14. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by riff View Post
    A 178 carbon version of this could be what I’m looking for…..all around midwinter touring, light enough for longer outings. I’ll be staying tuned.


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    I'm not saying a c105 is getting made in 179, but I think we did drawings of it at some point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riff View Post
    A 178 carbon version of this could be what I’m looking for…..all around midwinter touring, light enough for longer outings. I’ll be staying tuned.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shroom View Post
    pretty pretty. could i ski the 192 in 2k treed vert, would i just take it to switzerland, or should i wait for next years 188/9 run?
    yo dude! So a few things. The 188 R99 is going to ski a bit on 'on rails' than the 192 FL105. The R99 Comp will be a fat GS ski that can charge the whole mountain. The 192 FL105 has a 10m bigger radius and a deeper / more pronounced rocker line both tip and tails, so the FL105 will have more "feather" to its turns to open and close, and will punch above its width in 8"+ a bit better. Realistically, I don't think one will be "more" ski than another, just the R99 skews more towards high performance at edge angle, and the FL105 will skew more towards variable snow.

    Does this help?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshal Olson View Post
    As you wish....!
    Gasp! Furious study of every specification will ensue….


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    I will update the spec sheet tomorrow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshal Olson View Post
    Does this help?
    yeah dude! that’s great. appreciate the comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riff View Post
    Gasp! Furious study of every specification will ensue….


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    I have the numbers, just waiting for the go-ahead to share.

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    The numbers are
    13/10/11, 2x.x mR.

    Sorry. Had to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshal Olson View Post

    The 192 FL105 is more a big brother to the 185 than just a longer ski...With about 8 days on them now, I can say I love these things.
    Hey MO,

    After more time on them, would you say the first sentence ^ is still accurate? Most of my lineup are straight up chargers, which fits my style and preferences, but after selling 188 CMD 108s, I do miss having a slightly lighter, shorter, more flickable ski, for days I'm tired and only have 80%, or alternatively, for skiing steep awkward near my limit where precision and in turn confidence, matters. I see the 192s getting a ton of days next year, just trying to figure out if 185s could be what I just described, a bit shorter, a bit lighter, but strong enough in the flex/layup department to punch above their length. Thanks dude, out the door for last turns of the season on FL113s.

  23. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by arild View Post
    The numbers are
    13/10/11, 2x.x mR.

    Sorry. Had to.

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    Numbers are up!

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  24. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by arild View Post
    Numbers are up!

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    Is that right? Tip and tail height greater on the 178 than the 185?

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    Quote Originally Posted by waveshello View Post
    Is that right? Tip and tail height greater on the 178 than the 185?
    This is gonna sound dumb, but i think they are reflectech'ing their rocker so it matches the sidecut? So if the sidecut is tighter then it is also more rockered? That's what i assumed aboit the super mellow rocker on the 40m'ish fl113, the greater tip rocker on the 27m'ish fl105, and the super rocker on the 25m fl110

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