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  1. #51
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    Distractions increase logarithmically with age.

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    Was riding a dirt road that gets beat up during the winter/spring. Came around a corner and there was some guy squatting in the road looking at something by the river. I had to move left to get around him. No vehicle anywhere in site. He never said a word, even after I crashed, got up, dusted my ass off and swore a bunch.

    So it goes.
    I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.

    "Happiest years of my life were earning < $8.00 and hour, collecting unemployment every spring and fall, no car, no debt and no responsibilities. 1984-1990 Park City UT"

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    You mean he was pooping?!?!?!?

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    Nope, just sort of squatting there in the north bound lane.

    Big guy, bald with a fu manchu and wearing a wife beater, it was a nice day but only about 48 degrees.
    I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.

    "Happiest years of my life were earning < $8.00 and hour, collecting unemployment every spring and fall, no car, no debt and no responsibilities. 1984-1990 Park City UT"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunion 2020 View Post
    Nope, just sort of squatting there in the north bound lane.

    Big guy, bald with a fu manchu and wearing a wife beater, it was a nice day but only about 48 degrees.
    I see characters just hanging around on river road down towards the Axtell bridge. Glad yout shoulder held up!

    I go under the knife on 4/19. Really not stoked, but 24/7 pain is getting to me now.

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    This was about 1/2 way between Axtell and 287.

    You got this and will be glad you had it fixed.

    Figure out how you will sleep, stock up on easy meals and buy a zip hoody that is a size too big.
    I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.

    "Happiest years of my life were earning < $8.00 and hour, collecting unemployment every spring and fall, no car, no debt and no responsibilities. 1984-1990 Park City UT"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunion 2020 View Post
    This was about 1/2 way between Axtell and 287.

    You got this and will be glad you had it fixed.

    Figure out how you will sleep, stock up on easy meals and buy a zip hoody that is a size too big.
    I'm lucky that I will have my live in nurse taking care of me

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    Are you going to need a driver? I was warned not to drive one handed as the local cops like to write you for impaired driving.

    I hired a student and paid them to drive me around for a few days spread over a couple of weeks.
    I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.

    "Happiest years of my life were earning < $8.00 and hour, collecting unemployment every spring and fall, no car, no debt and no responsibilities. 1984-1990 Park City UT"

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    Bozeman cops have nothing better to do?
    You may want to find someone who does rolfing/structual integration. I think there are a few good practitioners in Bozeman. Acupuncture is good too.
    PT is essential, but it doesn't always fix the displacement and trauma. It's just not what they do.
    No longer stuck.

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    Just an uneducated guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunion 2020 View Post
    Are you going to need a driver? I was warned not to drive one handed as the local cops like to write you for impaired driving.

    I hired a student and paid them to drive me around for a few days spread over a couple of weeks.
    I used a steering wheel knob, like a 70 year old taxi driver from Hoboken. I made the 8 year old boy run the gears up through the 6 speed. YMMV



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    Teeheehee
    No longer stuck.

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    Just an uneducated guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Acupuncture is good too..
    I did 14 sessions of acupuncture for a frozen shoulder, it was a traditional chinese acupuncture guy so he would stick me with 18 pins from wrist into hairline,

    it was good for loosening up the shoulder to give more range of motion, it probably quit having any effect after 10 sessions
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    I just learned there's a difference between "classical" and "traditional" acupuncture and the former is what to look for. YMMV. Something about your pulse. And your tongue?!t1
    Rolfing method actually involves school and The Anatomy Coloring Book and real sciency things. Not that my mom (so yeah, I'm biased here, but seeing someone locally has made a huDge difference in my life) isn't into woowoo shit, but I think with boomers it's either that or Fox News. So I'll count myself lucky.
    No longer stuck.

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    Just an uneducated guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunion 2020 View Post
    Tested my repair job today on a bike ride. Got distracted and dropped a front wheel into a rut and crashed, hard.

    Everything seems to still function.
    Glad to hear you are ok!

    WRG - I'm having rotator cuff surgery on the 25th. I fucked up my left shoulder in my bike crash 1.5 years - broken bones and surgery. My right never felt quite right and just won't get better. Finally got an MRI and I have a full tear in the rotator cuff in the right shoulder. It didn't help matters when my kid and I hit skis at 40+ mph and my ski released and I went down hard on that shoulder. I could barely use my arm, and then bruising slowly worked its way down from the shoulder into my chest. Something tore more.

    I want a functional arm again. 6 weeks in a sling and up to 5 months before the repair is strong enough to risk a fall on it again. I'm hoping to hike a lot this summer but won't bike until fall. I'm focusing on what I'll gain, not the time I'll lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunion 2020 View Post
    Are you going to need a driver? I was warned not to drive one handed as the local cops like to write you for impaired driving.

    I hired a student and paid them to drive me around for a few days spread over a couple of weeks.
    The GF will be taking a few days off work and she works from home anyway and can give me a ride if I really need it. I drove myself from UT all the way home to MT in a sling after my initial injury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WMD View Post
    Glad to hear you are ok!

    WRG - I'm having rotator cuff surgery on the 25th. I fucked up my left shoulder in my bike crash 1.5 years - broken bones and surgery. My right never felt quite right and just won't get better. Finally got an MRI and I have a full tear in the rotator cuff in the right shoulder. It didn't help matters when my kid and I hit skis at 40+ mph and my ski released and I went down hard on that shoulder. I could barely use my arm, and then bruising slowly worked its way down from the shoulder into my chest. Something tore more.

    I want a functional arm again. 6 weeks in a sling and up to 5 months before the repair is strong enough to risk a fall on it again. I'm hoping to hike a lot this summer but won't bike until fall. I'm focusing on what I'll gain, not the time I'll lose.
    I hear that. Hope your surgery goes well. Luckily work has been good and I'm just gonna stay busy with it this summer and hopefully have another banner year and then go to JP to ski and/or NZ to bike next winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    I just learned there's a difference between "classical" and "traditional" acupuncture and the former is what to look for. YMMV. Something about your pulse. And your tongue?!t1
    Rolfing method actually involves school and The Anatomy Coloring Book and real sciency things. Not that my mom (so yeah, I'm biased here, but seeing someone locally has made a huDge difference in my life) isn't into woowoo shit, but I think with boomers it's either that or Fox News. So I'll count myself lucky.
    dunno, practiotioner was a pretty straightlaced looking middle aged chinese guy Andy Soo 30yrs ago so not a whole lot of woo wee shit going on

    I didn't realize there was a difference, I may have got them mixed up, any how buddy put 18 pins in knuckles/ wrist/ elbow/ shoulder up into hair line, sometimes hooked them up to Tens, leave them in for 45 min, get more range of motion
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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    dunno, practiotioner was a pretty straightlaced looking middle aged chinese guy Andy Soo 30yrs ago so not a whole lot of woo wee shit going on

    I didn't realize there was a difference, I may have got them mixed up, any how buddy put 18 pins in knuckles/ wrist/ elbow/ shoulder up into hair line, sometimes hooked them up to Tens, leave them in for 45 min, get more range of motion
    Yay
    No longer stuck.

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    Just an uneducated guess.

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    From what I have seen, every shoulder surgery is more than kind of different. There are a shit load of moving parts in a shoulder that all need to function and function together.

    IMO, PT, Sports Massage, Acu & Dry Needling and strength training along with a focus on better posture all play major roles.
    I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.

    "Happiest years of my life were earning < $8.00 and hour, collecting unemployment every spring and fall, no car, no debt and no responsibilities. 1984-1990 Park City UT"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunion 2020 View Post
    From what I have seen, every shoulder surgery is more than kind of different. There are a shit load of moving parts in a shoulder that all need to function and function together.

    IMO, PT, Sports Massage, Acu & Dry Needling and strength training along with a focus on better posture all play major roles.
    ya this ^^ and lots of time, I didnt need surgery but from many years of paddling WW, anything to do with a fucked shoulder took 2 years to get better and to this day i still won't thro a ball overhand
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    Well, yeah.
    Mine was/is complicated by ankylosing spondilitis. So that's fun.
    Keep in mind that sports massage and rolfing are different, just like dry needling and acupuncture are different.
    No longer stuck.

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    Just an uneducated guess.

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    I think he's tried all the hippie shit.

    Get

    Fucking

    Cut

    The lengths people are willing to go through to avoid surgery is just silly. It's not like we're talking about an ingrown toenail. At some point having to scrub turds off of your thumb because you've been using the other arm to wipe your ass for two years has got to get old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Touring_Sedan View Post
    I think he's tried all the hippie shit.

    Get

    Fucking

    Cut

    The lengths people are willing to go through to avoid surgery is just silly. It's not like we're talking about an ingrown toenail. At some point having to scrub turds off of your thumb because you've been using the other arm to wipe your ass for two years has got to get old.
    I wasn't suggesting all that to avoid surgery. I was suggesting that as part of the recovery process.
    No longer stuck.

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    Just an uneducated guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Touring_Sedan View Post
    I think he's tried all the hippie shit.

    Get

    Fucking

    Cut

    The lengths people are willing to go through to avoid surgery is just silly. It's not like we're talking about an ingrown toenail. At some point having to scrub turds off of your thumb because you've been using the other arm to wipe your ass for two years has got to get old.
    Surgery has been scheduled for a week maybe. 4/19. Just trying to mitigate pain at this point so I can enjoy the next 10 days somewhat. Was supposed to head to UT today to ride my bike....bailed. Shoulder hurts too much. Fucking sucks. I need a vacation. Oh well. Way she goes bub.

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    I have been avoiding this thread, partially out of optimism that my situation would resolve itself, and partially not to concern WRG.
    Basically, I had surgery on my shoulder in Jan. to ‘fix’ a previous surgery. Well, I gambled and I lost, as my shoulder now is basically destroyed, and I need a total replacement.
    Ironically, I rode better, faster, stronger, and In more control in Peru last year than I ever have been in my life.
    As of today, it’s looking increasingly likely that I basically can’t ride this year, which is hugely depressing at 57. (How many years could I possibly actually shred again, even with a full recovery by ‘25?).
    I’ll post more details, but I am in a world of hurt, physically and psychically.
    Could be way worse, and I have a lot of other things to be thankful for, but it has been rough.
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