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04-12-2023, 12:30 PM #26
i thought this article was pretty good
https://coloradosun.com/2023/03/13/c...ation-reports/
that report and a month to do it
not so much
it seems like tysens uma/exum final report on the whitesnake slide a few seasons ago
it sure seems like the do sponsers accident/fatality reports different from others
which seems to speaks to the politics of money
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04-12-2023, 05:10 PM #27
Ideally? Yes.
However operations like PCPCs are under no obligation to share any information with anyone except the Coroner and Sheriff. And my guess would be that the UAC will accept all info offered but not press due to them not wanting to end up being called to testify in the event of litigation. Its a fine line for a forecast center to have to walk.
See comments here: https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...port-avalancheLast edited by Bunion 2020; 04-12-2023 at 05:34 PM.
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04-12-2023, 10:26 PM #28Is it radix panax notoginseng? - splat
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04-13-2023, 11:50 AM #29
Vibes. Seems to me the biggest missing info is how skier 4 ended up on the slope at the same time as skier 3.
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07-29-2023, 01:44 PM #30Registered User
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Vibes and RIP
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08-06-2023, 03:30 PM #31Registered User
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Park City tour operator sued by wife of skier killed in Uintas avalanche
I can't imagine it goes to a court room but interesting development on this tragedy. Lots of new info in the lawsuit. Guests weren't carrying probes and shovels?? UAC didn't (or wasn't allowed to) interview the other clients? His wife wasn't notified for 3 days?! I will be curious to follow the outcome.Last edited by ASmileyFace; 08-06-2023 at 04:29 PM.
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08-06-2023, 03:58 PM #32
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08-07-2023, 06:54 AM #33
Actually quite common for heli and cat ops.
I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.
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08-08-2023, 09:43 AM #34Registered User
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08-08-2023, 10:11 AM #35Registered User
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Weber Canyon Slide- Guided group 1 fatality
I dont know that beacon only is unusual for a cat operation.
My limited experience is every heli op has provided avy pack w/ shovel, beacon, probe and required a basic training session before flying, cat ops have provided beacon only and touring guides have always checked my personal beacon and other gear - I’d attribute different cat protocols due to terrain and presence of tail guide
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08-08-2023, 10:12 AM #36Registered User
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Was surprised because all the operations I am personally familiar with require carrying shovels and probes. I ended up looking online at a few other ops and found that requiring only a beacon is common among Cat operations mostly. Heli operations seem to require all the gear more frequently.
Getting a bunch of rando clients to shovel and actually turn their beacons off in a rescue sounds like an impossible task, but you have to wonder about having those extra shovels digging.
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08-16-2023, 12:01 PM #37
I've been out with one cat-ski op and two heli-ski ops and each time we were provided with a transceiver, probe, and shovel, and given a brief training session on how to use them. It wasn't much, but it wasn't nothing. This was all in Canada, so maybe things are different in the US. I haven't heard of any operations in Canada not doing avalanche safety training.
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08-22-2023, 12:02 PM #38
Having a burial with 5 clients and one guide with one shovel and probe between them all sounds fucked. I wouldn't ski with an operation like that.
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