BOA Alpine

[Hood26]

Well, who’s going to give them a go first? I have seen a lot of broken BOA snowboard boots, but these are supposed to be more stout and a different with the micro adjust.

Will they be on World Cup feet as predicted?

https://gearjunkie.com/winter/skiing...pine-ski-boots

[NBABUCKS1]

i'd be all in if I had $800 to drop on boots. Onenerdykid on the gear 30 podcast has me bought in.

[doubleeject]

I can't say I'll be an early adopter. Maybe it'll be a great a development, but I'll wait and see.

[TurxSki]

If a boot buckle breaks, its pretty easy to get replaced. Imagine trying to re-thread the boa cord...
I think this is gonna be like "intergrated bindings". Seems like a good idea at first glance. But then realize it's really just marketing causing you to buy new more often, rather than keep old gear going.

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[plugboots]

Boa cord is supposed to be edge proof, and dial is beefy. I like the idea, and spreading out the pressure is definitely better, but I can’t get my Scarpa F1 LT boa tighter after a certain point. Slippery gloves, or it stops, whatever. Need to see them skied by people I trust first.

[LHutz Esq]

Am I wrong that it just adjusts the toe? Seems like a complicated solution to a not a problem.

[alpinevibes]

Everyone needs to read through ONK's atomic boot thread and listen to the podcast before they rush to judgements on the BOA debuts.

https://blisterreview.com/podcasts/g...systems-ep-232

I think he's been convincingly forthright and acted in good faith towards the consumer through all his online/podcast interactions and I'm willing to trust his experience and expertise on this development.

[onenerdykid]

If a boot buckle breaks, its pretty easy to get replaced. Imagine trying to re-thread the boa cord...
I think this is gonna be like "intergrated bindings". Seems like a good idea at first glance. But then realize it's really just marketing causing you to buy new more often, rather than keep old gear going.

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Re-threading the BOA cable is as easy as replacing a derailleur cable on a bike, it even looks similar. It's easier and less time consuming than drilling out a riveted-on buckle. Everything is attached to the shell externally and with screwed hardware. Never riveted.

You're going to be seeing a big push from Atomic in terms of spare part simplicity and access for the purpose of keeping your old gear going. This is part of a larger, overarching sustainability program we are rolling out and will be very committed to.

[plugboots]

BOA is in too vulnerable a spot for me.

[onenerdykid]

Boa cord is supposed to be edge proof, and dial is beefy. I like the idea, and spreading out the pressure is definitely better, but I can’t get my Scarpa F1 LT boa tighter after a certain point. Slippery gloves, or it stops, whatever. Need to see them skied by people I trust first.

This BOA will over-tighten your boots- it's that strong but that's not the point of it. The gearing that this system has is far greater than what the M-series dials (think snowboarding or touring boots) use. It's partly why the system is the size that it is.

[onenerdykid]

Am I wrong that it just adjusts the toe? Seems like a complicated solution to a not a problem.

It adjusts the lower shell. On one hand it is more complicated than buckles, but it does bring a better fit to the table vs. buckles. I wouldn't view it as solving a problem but rather it is being a better solution.

[LHutz Esq]

It adjusts the lower shell. On one hand it is more complicated than buckles, but it does bring a better fit to the table vs. buckles. I wouldn't view it as solving a problem but rather it is being a better solution.

I am missing how it can adjust my "top bottom" buckle area- the one that pulls my heal down and back a bit, differently than the toe buckle area (bottom bottom)/

I usually have the first cranked to the max and the later flapping like a new-schooler's jersey.

Is there adjustment in the part that looks like a buckle but isn't for that?

I'll def try 'em on but I am not buying them until they have been out in the world for a good long time.

[plugboots]

I am missing how it can adjust my "top bottom" buckle area- the one that pulls my heal down and back a bit, differently than the toe buckle area (bottom bottom)/

I usually have the first cranked to the max and the later flapping like a new-schooler's jersey.

Is there adjustment in the part that looks like a buckle but isn't for that?

I'll def try 'em on but I am not buying them until they have been out in the world for a good long time.

Wildsnow talks about the toe buckle being useless all the time, and how he removes it and/or moves the top bottom buckle back to pull his heel back. I agree. I want a buckle that pulls my heel back and locks it down. Full tilt style.

[stuckathuntermtn]

Wildsnow talks about the toe buckle being useless all the time, and how he removes it and/or moves the top bottom buckle back to pull his heel back. I agree. I want a buckle that pulls my heel back and locks it down. Full tilt style.

Depends on your foot. I have narrow toes. I went back to 4 buckle overlap this year and I love it. So much more precise. The lower cuff buckle pulls things together heal hold wise just great for me.


This BOA shit kinda reminds me of the old Salomon boots with laces. They were pretty low end. I suppose it could work if you have a good snug fit in the clog on the boot so you don't have to tighten it much.