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Thread: BOA Alpine
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02-03-2023, 11:18 AM #1
BOA Alpine
Well, who’s going to give them a go first? I have seen a lot of broken BOA snowboard boots, but these are supposed to be more stout and a different with the micro adjust.
Will they be on World Cup feet as predicted?
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02-03-2023, 11:23 AM #2Registered User
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i'd be all in if I had $800 to drop on boots. Onenerdykid on the gear 30 podcast has me bought in.
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02-03-2023, 11:25 AM #3
I can't say I'll be an early adopter. Maybe it'll be a great a development, but I'll wait and see.
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02-03-2023, 11:32 AM #4
If a boot buckle breaks, its pretty easy to get replaced. Imagine trying to re-thread the boa cord...
I think this is gonna be like "intergrated bindings". Seems like a good idea at first glance. But then realize it's really just marketing causing you to buy new more often, rather than keep old gear going.
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02-03-2023, 11:40 AM #5
Boa cord is supposed to be edge proof, and dial is beefy. I like the idea, and spreading out the pressure is definitely better, but I can’t get my Scarpa F1 LT boa tighter after a certain point. Slippery gloves, or it stops, whatever. Need to see them skied by people I trust first.
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02-03-2023, 11:48 AM #6Registered User
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Am I wrong that it just adjusts the toe? Seems like a complicated solution to a not a problem.
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02-03-2023, 11:51 AM #7
Everyone needs to read through ONK's atomic boot thread and listen to the podcast before they rush to judgements on the BOA debuts.
https://blisterreview.com/podcasts/g...systems-ep-232
I think he's been convincingly forthright and acted in good faith towards the consumer through all his online/podcast interactions and I'm willing to trust his experience and expertise on this development.
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02-03-2023, 11:51 AM #8
Re-threading the BOA cable is as easy as replacing a derailleur cable on a bike, it even looks similar. It's easier and less time consuming than drilling out a riveted-on buckle. Everything is attached to the shell externally and with screwed hardware. Never riveted.
You're going to be seeing a big push from Atomic in terms of spare part simplicity and access for the purpose of keeping your old gear going. This is part of a larger, overarching sustainability program we are rolling out and will be very committed to.
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02-03-2023, 11:52 AM #9
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02-03-2023, 12:16 PM #12Registered User
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I am missing how it can adjust my "top bottom" buckle area- the one that pulls my heal down and back a bit, differently than the toe buckle area (bottom bottom)/
I usually have the first cranked to the max and the later flapping like a new-schooler's jersey.
Is there adjustment in the part that looks like a buckle but isn't for that?
I'll def try 'em on but I am not buying them until they have been out in the world for a good long time.
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02-03-2023, 12:20 PM #13Well maybe I'm the faggot America
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02-03-2023, 12:34 PM #14
Depends on your foot. I have narrow toes. I went back to 4 buckle overlap this year and I love it. So much more precise. The lower cuff buckle pulls things together heal hold wise just great for me.
This BOA shit kinda reminds me of the old Salomon boots with laces. They were pretty low end. I suppose it could work if you have a good snug fit in the clog on the boot so you don't have to tighten it much.
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02-06-2024, 08:34 AM #15
After cracking my Salomon S/max's this weekend, I checked out the S/Pro Supra with BOA. The boot fitter said Solly combined the S/Max and S/Pro into the Supra. I think those boots differ by the instep (could be wrong). I have one wide foot and have to go with a narrow boot or the other foot is swimming. Had a LOT of work on my S/Max's - 6-8 trips to the fitter to get them dialed. The Supra with BOA felt great right out of the box on BOTH feet. Would prob need to shave the boot board on one boot a hair but otherwise both felt great.
Before trying them on, I had the same thought as above - what problem is this solving? How is it different than buckles? The BOA appears to allow you to shrink the last to your foot width. For someone with two different lasts, it felt great. That said - I'm more than a little reluctant to spend $750 on new ski tech. Would love to hear some real world experience.
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02-06-2024, 09:43 AM #16Registered User
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real world experience here with the k2 recon 130 boa. Multiple trips on them now and couldn’t be happier. As you mentioned the fit is unreal compared to a buckle boot. It is different and it is better. More secure and for my foot much more comfortable. At this point I’ve needed no shell work out of the box. I did head mold the liners. Currently running super feet liners but want to go custom.
the durability as also been fantastic. I’ve knocked them around, smacked the boa dial and no issues. I gave one a fairly good whack while skiing in trees. Was coming pretty quick and got thrown off line by a branch which made me smack into a low hanging thicker branch. Nailed the binding first then it continued into the boot and nailed the boa cable and dial hard. I ended up taking wood with me in my binding screw and boot dial. The dial never popped off and didn’t get any physical damage other than a rub mark. Cable was also fine. The cable is very thick and can only be cut with wire cutters.
if you need to replace it all parts are free from boa. You can do a request directly on the site. It’s extremely easy if needed and replacement of the parts is also very easy to do.
price at the moment is for sure an issue since boa is the new hotness. That being said if you pay attention deals are to be had. During the holidays Corbetts in Canada had all the new boa stuff on deep discount. I paid $480 shipped for my 24 recon boas after the sale and exchange rate to the states.
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02-06-2024, 09:46 AM #17
That bootfitter is incorrect. The S/Pro and S/Pro Supra are the evolution of the 100mm lasted S/Pro, though the instep has been raised on both. The 98mm narrow lasted Salomon boot is the S/Pro Alpha, which doesn't have BOA as present (and won't in '24-'25).
The only "fusion" has to do with the naming scheme - all Salomon alpine boots are now "S/Pro-something" - Alpha is low volume, S/Pro or S/Pro Supra are medium volume, and S/Pro HV is high volume.
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02-06-2024, 10:27 PM #23Registered User
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02-07-2024, 12:04 AM #24
Yeah, if it's like "normal" boa, it's 5 minute job and anyone can do it.
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02-07-2024, 09:27 AM #25
Not exactly. A "normal" BOA in a snowboard boot could be anywhere from a 10 minute job to a 3 hour job, depending on whether you can thread the cable internally in the boot. The new H+i1 is 10 minutes every time. This season we've probably fixed about 30 snowboard BOA boots, we've only done 1 BOA ski boot and we've sold quite a few.
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