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Thread: The Atomic Ski Boot Thread
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01-27-2023, 05:12 PM #126Registered User
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@onenerdykid If I like the fit of the Hawx XTD 130, and somewhat the backland carbon (minus the high instep) could I get the backland XTD possibly work, even though its a Prime last? I mostly like the small heel pocket of both Atomic boots and the instep of the Hawx is great for my feet.
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01-27-2023, 05:44 PM #127
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01-28-2023, 09:05 AM #128Registered User
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01-28-2023, 09:12 AM #129Registered User
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I have the Hawx Ultra XTD 130. I've never put my foot in a boot with the Prime Last. Currently, my DD boot its the new Transalp Pro that fits the quiver of the new Backland XTD, but the ankle pocket is a little too big for my foot shape after getting some days in it.
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01-28-2023, 10:52 AM #130
Redster CS instep is a little lower vertically, but slightly longer in the heel-to-instep perimeter (the throat of the shell is more open on the CS). Width is super easy to make with a combination of grinding (to thin the plastic a bit) and then stretching as needed. The PU plastic is super easy to work on.
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01-28-2023, 10:54 AM #131
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01-28-2023, 11:42 AM #132Registered User
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01-29-2023, 03:32 AM #133
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01-29-2023, 05:32 AM #134
I loved boot boards like that in my old boots. Is there anywhere you can order them or are they dealer only?
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01-29-2023, 05:50 AM #135
In the US & Canada, they are available only through Atomic dealers and any of them can order some for you. If you are in Euroland, they are available online.
We've got them for Redster CS (Part# AZE001810), Hawx Ultra-Prime-Magna-Prime XTD (Part# AZE001808) and Hawx Ultra XTD (Part# AZE001812).
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01-29-2023, 01:49 PM #136Registered User
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ONK or other Atomic-knowledgeable folks: are there any significant differences in the shell between a 19/20 hawx prime 130 S and the 20/21 version? I’ll be putting a booster strap on and using my zipfits, so really just trying to figure our if the shells are the same
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01-29-2023, 03:18 PM #137
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01-29-2023, 03:25 PM #138Registered User
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You rock - thanks Matt
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01-30-2023, 01:28 PM #139User
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01-31-2023, 08:22 AM #140
Random question that just hit me,
Is the mimic foam Atomic uses a a third party brand and if so is it the same as the mimic foam Specialized started using in their saddles around the same time it showed up in boot liners? Or just coincidence.
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01-31-2023, 08:39 AM #141Registered User
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01-31-2023, 08:40 AM #142Registered User
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Redster CS vs HAWX
Long time listener, first time caller! I've been using the Hoji's as my only boots for the past couple of seasons, but I want more suspension for skiing shitty inbounds snow. I have a wide mid-foot (110mm at 26.5) and a high-ish instep, but relatively skinny ankles/calves. Made the Hoji's work for me with a ton of stretching + opening the throats a bit to help with instep pressure. (I love how locked-down I feel in the Hoji's.)
I -think- I want to go Redster CS for maximum dampening, but I'm concerned I'd have trouble getting a 96mm last to work for my relatively beefy feet. Think it's doable to grind/stretch a Redster CS to fit my 110mm feet? Or would you recommend something in the HAWX line instead?
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01-31-2023, 10:21 AM #143Registered User
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So I have a 113mm left foot and I have zero issue in a hawx ultra. I’m actually considering bumping up to a redster cs next season just to get that next level of precision and damping. I’ve skied the ultra totally pain free since day 1 thanks to GregL!
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01-31-2023, 11:25 AM #144Anxious desk jockey
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I currently splitboarding in a heavily punched/stretched Backland in a 27.5 but my ski boots are Hawx Ultra XTD 130s in a 28.5. I couldn't actually get my foot down into the Hawx in a 27.5 at the time but now that I have more miles in an overlap boot should I try it again? Would you expect someone to use the same shell size Backlands and Hawx? I was aggressive in downsizing my first pair of Backlands to reduce toe/heel drag on the splitboard and they came out being my most comfortable mountain boots, I'm now on my 4th pair. I've found myself touring on skis more often than the splitboard this season to better match the people that I'm touring with and am considering the Backland XTDs for next season. Thanks for the feedback!
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01-31-2023, 12:05 PM #145
"Mimic" is actually a heat moldable plastic layer inside the liner. It creates the anatomic ankle & heel shape but is remoldable and hardens in whatever shape you give it (normally your ankle & heel). The foam on the inside the liner is the same as in our older 3D liners of the same level (Platinum to Platinum). Similar to the Big S technology in name only.
I'll post a picture of the material and how it is placed in the liner later this week when I am back in the office.
Haha, that's the new tag line.
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01-31-2023, 12:06 PM #146
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01-31-2023, 12:56 PM #148Registered User
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01-31-2023, 02:58 PM #149Registered User
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01-31-2023, 03:37 PM #150Registered User
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Hey ONK, I've been skiing a 26.5 Hawx Ultra XTD this season with a couple shims under the insoles and am considering another pair for inbounds exclusively. The Ultras ski well but feel a little loose over the ankle, shell fit is right about 3/4" so almost 2cm. If I try and size down would it make sense to move to the Hawx Prime or try and make an Ultra work? Or should I stick with a 26.5 and try and fill gaps?
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