23/24 Gear Rumors

[rod9301]

Shame the last on those things isn't great unless you have the exact foot shape that works with them.

They are easy to mod

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[arild]

Also curious about the new Dobies. P. 46-49 below.

https://issuu.com/nordica_northameri...rkbook_digital

Edit to add: The 96 last specifically; looks like more competition for the Lange RS 140, etc.

Me too. I think I'll even upsize to 27.5, only 5 mm more of bsl compared to my current 26.5s.

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[GuyonaBuffalo]

Me too. I think I'll even upsize to 27.5, only 5 mm more of bsl compared to my current 26.5s.
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so the 27 is 310mm?

[arild]

so the 27 is 310mm?

According to the Norwegian importer, yes.

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[altacoup]

^^^
Is that true for the 93mm last Dobermans to?

[arild]

^^^
Is that true for the 93mm last Dobermans to?

I didn't ask about the 93mm ones, but the catalog says it is across the whole line. I guess the same outer molds, different internals between the two?

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[SupreChicken]

Hmm, a little heavier than I hoped.

Yeah. Same. Why not just buy a zed on discount now? Or better yet, a much lighter alpinist?

[Lord Thomas]

Yeah. Same. Why not just buy a zed on discount now? Or better yet, a much lighter alpinist?

I like the fact that with just a couple of extra holes with inserts I could have a 250g skimo type clamp with a leash, a 480g clamp with brakes for daily, and King Pin for when I might be doing some 50/50. All with the same toe, only needing to change the heel.

[ASmileyFace]

Fondled the new AMER Summit 12 the other day, mounted on the 189cm(?) Echo 106. 2333/2340 grams for each ski w/binding. The Echo borrows a lot of the rocker and shape from the Blank over the QST 106, which seems like a good call for the type of ski they are going for.

The Summit seems super robust. They were designed specifically to have a freeride-spacer-like feel with the brake but can be used without. Sounds like a "pure" version might come with a "freeride spacer" too. Supposedly they worked on the "flappy riser" issue that develops after a period of time. As a long-time user of the MTN I could see myself putting this on my "freeride" setup and going lighter on my spring/mountaineering set up.

[summit]

Yeah, I'm wondering if there is still a krypton (with tech fittings) available.

That big looking K2 crescendo is interesting too. It looks massive!

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I just put 7 days on 186 Crescendos swapping back and forth with 192 L138s. (Similar skis, I've also skied Spats, gen 1 Pontoons, L120s)

Crescendo was my grab whenever skiing more open, higher speed/charger, or denser/less deep snow. The Lotus is what I grabbed for tighter trees, variable snow, deeper snow, or tracked snow.

It's a super fun ski. It doesn't erase tracks quite as well as the L138, but it punches right through. It is not as loose read-your-mind slarvy maneuverable but still extremely maneuverable with an intentional unloading (pushp-pop-pivot-point) that is very fun and it has a very high speed limit that makes it more fun when you don't need the wider waist. It is a predictable hucker. It wants to be driven from neutral to forward, but it won't kill you if you get knocked back seat, you can still maneuver and recover. Crescendo is well behaved in variable/crust but not as dreamlike as the 138. Good job K2!

[GoldenBC]

Fondled the new AMER Summit 12 the other day, mounted on the 189cm(?) Echo 106. 2333/2340 grams for each ski w/binding. The Echo borrows a lot of the rocker and shape from the Blank over the QST 106, which seems like a good call for the type of ski they are going for.

The echo is literally a QST 106 with a different lay up. Exact same shape.

[ASmileyFace]

Whoops. I had next years Blank and Echo next to each other and was quoting one of their athletes directly when I posted that. I haven't seen the new QST in person so I didn't know that they were the same exact mold/shape.

[GoldenBC]

@asmileyface the Blank is unchanged next year and this Echo pictured is next year’s too. Unless there is another ski I don’t know about, the Echo106 has nothing to do with the Blank. But yes, this year’s QST 106 does have a longer taper that is more like the blank than the old 106.