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12-31-2022, 07:49 PM #1
NYE Fatality Breckinridge
What we have here is an intelligence failure. You may be familiar with staring directly at that when shaving. .
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12-31-2022, 08:21 PM #2
Just horrible. Second father-kid in a week. All are tragic, but this seems to be the worst situation. Heart breaking. RIP
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12-31-2022, 09:08 PM #3
Fack. Rip. I presume no bc gear. Sad
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12-31-2022, 09:16 PM #4
Awful
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01-03-2023, 01:29 PM #5
https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/new...hern-colorado/
Nick Feinstein, son of the UNC President. These aren't new folks to CO.
Where are we missing in the awareness messaging?Originally Posted by blurred
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01-03-2023, 05:40 PM #6Registered User
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01-03-2023, 06:32 PM #7I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.
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01-03-2023, 08:48 PM #8
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01-04-2023, 10:46 AM #9Registered User
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Force the 5 newest yellow jackets to take turns manning the gate.
IMO its an issue of easy access meets dunning-kruger. People who can ski inbounds blacks or even double blacks think they are experts and "belong" out the gates with the other expert skiers they see out there. Ever read the youtube comments on avalanche videos- filled with very confident, unrealistic monday morning QBing. And because there is no investment (money for equipment, time/sweat for a big hike) required, its really easy to make that snap decision to "just send it".
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01-04-2023, 09:10 PM #11
It's certainly a valid question in general but I don't necessarily think it's valid simply because these two were 'more educated'. The university president recently moved there after serving in San Jose and Las Vegas. There's no reason to believe their education would include backcountry savvy any more than any other executive.
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I think Summit was emphasizing that "these aren't new folks to CO," which is to say that they should be veterans to the area who are familiar with the dangers of avalanche risk. But, exposure and proximity to the backcountry didn't improve their awareness; so what can we do more to improve people's awareness to backcountry/sidecountry avalanche risk?
Personally, I think there's something to be said about how powder days are marketed to the larger populace. It's almost like an entitlement, and the glory/entertainment of skiing is so heavily emphasized while the risk of injury is marginalized. And, when it comes to injury, I feel like the general public thinks of 1.) Hitting a tree, 2.) Breaking a knee, and 3.) Running into people. When it comes to fluffy snow with cold/warm temperature changes, I don't think most people think of avalanche risk. They probably think it's a bomber bluebird day where they can hit some sweet powder without freezing their faces off.
I guess I'm saying we should post less posters of face shots. Or, maybe there should be a warning label at the bottom of the picture talking about how that powder's looking to kill you some day...
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01-05-2023, 05:20 AM #13
The titty deep pics in the JH thread are enticing.
I’m always amazed by snow stability and instability.
It’s magic. And science. And a roll of the dice at times.
RIP
Sad they didn’t have gear. Also sad looking at the pic of a modest slope into a terrain trap.
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01-05-2023, 06:35 AM #14
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01-05-2023, 07:39 AM #15Registered User
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the place they skied is pretty unassuming nothing "extreme" about it pretty mellow area that most people wouldn't think twice about hitting
but they picked the wrong day wrong time to ride it normally it'd be shit after two sunny days in arow
this is just like the avalanche on hoosier a year or two ago 1/4 mile from the lift 1/4 mile from the car feels safe
hey wait it's pretty much like all avalanches
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01-05-2023, 03:55 PM #16
What a shitty thing. As a dad, I just couldn't imagine. That's all I got.
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01-07-2023, 06:23 PM #17
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01-07-2023, 09:15 PM #18
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01-07-2023, 09:22 PM #19
But, also, if your son had been savvy enough to stop in a safer spot, then this might have ended better.
It doesn't appear that either of them knew enough to be skiing safely in that area.
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01-09-2023, 11:17 AM #20
We were at Francie's, not too far from here the next few days after the incident. Thoughts to the family and that dad... I can't even imagine. I was surprised how thin that all was in there and what was there was super hollow.
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