Ok I broke down joined the club with some one oh fours with that Black Friday sale. I’m gonna love em?
Ok I broke down joined the club with some one oh fours with that Black Friday sale. I’m gonna love em?
I’m very optic curious but torn between the 96 and 104. Usually i go mid 90s for my all mountain ski (colorado) but this year i’ll be skiing at bachelor and the 104 feels like it makes more sense. Which one should i go with here?
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I’m Line Optic series curious so can only answer generally about what to ski at Bachy. I only have ever skied my 99mm underfoot skis during a dry spell of 6 weeks a few years ago. Generally I ski 10x width stuff on the daily with many days a season at 114+ width skis depending on conditions….. unless you are an old old racer dude who can’t fathom skiing anything more than 90mm underfoot for soft snow days the 104 should serve you well ….
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Curated.com has some even crazier deals on last year’s Blade Optics than Line is running. Stumbled across Optic 114’s (178 only) and 104’s (171, 185, 190) for $249 for the 2024 model. Go get some!
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Backcountry will price match this too and curated is non returnable on clearance if that matters to anyone
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What size attack brakes do I want for the one oh fours?
Will ninety fives work or are one tens better?
Stupid app won’t let me use numbers.
Just bought the 96 off corbetts. $230 shipped …
Corbetts has the 114 for under $260 shipped right now and 104 for $240
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Skied my 104's in the 185 for the first time this past weekend. Stepped down from the 190 I had last year. Have to say that the 190, being heavier, was a bit more stable at speed and felt overall like more of a charger. It also felt a little cumbersome in tight spots. In comparison, the 185 felt more natural and automatic. I could still push the ski hard and get on the tips and drive it when I wanted to on groomers, but was more manageable and easier off trail. They felt very good in the 4-6" of new show...pushing through consolidated snow while remaining really lose and agile in the back half of the ski. I really like how I can get on the edges and drive the ski, but still have that looseness in the tail that is so beneficial off trail.
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Me too. 104 185cm with green Attack 14s. If nothing else they at least look cool...
No new snow, so just hardpack. My DD is a ON3P Woods 187 108, so 104 on a hardpack day is pretty normal. I tried out some 112 Deathwish the same day which wasn't a good fit for conditions, but switching to the Optics for the first time felt immediately excellent. Very intuitive, predictable underfoot, drivable and fast. Didn't do anything technical or tight, so that will be interesting to check out. Felt very light compared to the Woodsmans. Not sure if that's real or in my head - I'll have to check weights. But they did feel like they got bounced around a bit. Might be nice in the tighter stuff once we finally get some snow. Whenever that is.
Anyway, good start and looking forward to the test in more normal midseason terrain at some point.
Last edited by EWG; 12-18-2024 at 05:09 AM.
Not sure the weight of the Woodsman 108, but the Blade Optic 104 is pretty beefy for its size, my 185 was 2260gm a ski when I weighed before mounting. The tip is fairly soft and light compared to the rest which is probably why the felt lighter .
Mine also came w a pretty grabby tune at the tips I haven't bothered retuning yet but did detune the taper quite a bit.
I looked em up and you’re right - the Optic is actually listed as 40g heavier than the Woodsman’s. Wild.
It was only a few runs on a pretty firm hard pack. Clearly I need more time on them to see what’s up. Looking forward to that for sure. Should have lots of days to mess around over the next few weeks…
Just got my second day on the 185 104 Optic. This is the ski I’ve been looking for! I wanted a ski that can slarve and dump speed if I was going too fast in trees but I also wanted something that would bomb through crud and feel stable at speed. I hope other companies make skis like this - a playful twin tip inspired ski that can charge. It does feel a lot like the sender free 110 that I demoed but with a little easier to get on edge. It’s definitely more stable than the dynastar m-free 99 that I also owned (sold to a friend after picking up the optic) and plows through cut up snow more confidently. Not as lively as the elan playmaker 101 but a much faster ski. Reminiscent also of my prodigy 4 that I really like but a touch more directional and holds a line better. Mine weighed 2200 and 2300 grams which was a shock but really can’t notice the difference while skiing. I tend to like lighter skis because I do a lot of sidestepping, traversing, and hiking in the resort but as far as sidestepping goes, the torsional rigidity almost makes it easier to hike than a ski without the “gas pedal metal.” Speaking of which, I really thought the GPM was a stupid gimmicky marketing term but after straight lining one of my favorite runs in less than ideal conditions I decided to admit that Gas pedal metal is a real thing and that I like it. Anyway, if you were thinking of getting this ski then my vote is go for it! Happy skiing!
Since Jan was pretty low tide a lot of places, anyone use their 104 Blade Optic on true hardpack or icy groomers? Curious how it holds up in these conditions
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I have. They are okay but not great. The “gas pedal metal” helps to quiet the ski and is capable of holding an edge, it’s just not any better than “acceptable or mediocre”. Since you ski the one-o-four in a more progressive stance, it feels like you’ll never quite get the confidence inspiring edge hold of a more directional ski with metal. They really excel in anything soft and that’s where I tend to use mine.
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I find the edge grip fine on firm snow. But the shape isn’t really from railing high edge angle carves. Despite the listed turn radius they ski much straighter. So they do fine laying down super G turns on firm but if you want to get tighter it’s more of a skid.
I don’t really disagree with anything those guys said but I’ve found them to work pretty well in bulletproof stuff. I can set em and hold it with force. But I’ll admit I angle my ankles pretty hard in those conditions so I’m getting pretty good edge bite. I’m also driving a little bit as Bandit sort’ve alluded too - not so upright on hard pack / ice.
Also this is Rocky Mountain ice. Not see through East coast ice.
The blade optic 96 absolutely shreds firm groomers. Gs and slalom turns for this guy with zero racing background.
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