Big Mountain Powder Chargers - Heritage Lab C113 and FL113 - Dedicated Thread

[Marshal Olson]

Designed to be powder snow rocket ships. Ideal for everyday backcountry use. With final samples arriving, and by popular demand, making a dedicated thread.

Rocker
- These are soft snow directional chargers to rule all snow types.
- Designed for ultra-smooth pivot and drift, enough planning to pop up in the woods with modest speeds
- Very stable tail that gives you energy out of every turn.
- The Freeride build will arrive dead flat to ever so slightly reverse camber.
- The Carbon build has <4mm combined/unweighted camber and <1mm of camber flat w/ski weight.

Flex Pattern
- Designed to charge but never beat you up.
- Striking the right balance between blasting through chop and variable, extra smooth off-edge, and never seeing a speed limit

Construction
- The carbon build will feel like trampolines on your feet. Quick, lively, and incredibly smooth.
- The freeride build will feel like battleships on your feet. Surfy, quick to pivot, and chop destroyers.

Skis on order are expected to ship by Jan 15th, and there are a few pairs remaining on most shapes.
Eager to hear everyone's thoughts and questions! Happy to post any more details folks might be after.

THANK YOU ALL FOR THE SUPPORT IN MAKING THIS CRAZY IDEA REAL.

I personally can't wait to make the C113 my everyday BC ski, and use the FL113 for high speed inbounds days!

[phatty]

Subscribing as the C113 sounds just about perfect for a touring ski. Curious on weights.

[Marshal Olson]

Subscribing as the C113 sounds just about perfect for a touring ski. Curious on weights.

you bet! 187 C113 should be ~1750g. The 194 I have here measured <1850g average.

[arild]

The rocker/camber profile came out extremely similar to the first gen SD105 from Down, which is a very,very good thing.

Those graphics probably look even better irl, so cannot wait.

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[Lord Thomas]

C113 looks like the ultimate DD tour stick. Subscribing

[Stuntmonkey]

I could be convinced on the FL113. I do like a fat in bounds ski. The charging aspect and not beating me up has REAL appeal right now.

[Marshal Olson]

C113 looks like the ultimate DD tour stick. Subscribing

It's certainly mine! haha.

I could be convinced on the FL113. I do like a fat in bounds ski. The charging aspect and not beating me up has REAL appeal right now.

Make windbuff, zipper crust, and refrozen great again.

[detrusor]

A ski that can SG down hanging bowl in the Mano and still pivot in gun tower trees. I’m psyched


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[rob stokes]

In the future a +1cm FL113 would fill a real sweet spot I think....FL123 even has a nice ring to it.

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[nate s]

Loving the weight on the C113!

Get those things mounted and tell us what you think!

[Marshal Olson]

In the future a +1cm FL113 would fill a real sweet spot I think....FL123 even has a nice ring to it.

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yeah man! +1 and -1 versions coming to a preorder near you. But not wanting to unpack new ideas until we get the skis already on order delivered to everyone!!!

[mr_pretzel]

Marshal what are we thinking on the mount points here? I cant seem to remember.

Excited to get on both sizes of the fl113

[arild]

Marshal what are we thinking on the mount points here? I cant seem to remember.

Excited to get on both sizes of the fl113

Right around -11 (+/-5mm) as designed, but wouldn't be wrong,afaic, to mount them -10 either. Drawn to point,shoot and pivot.

Caveat: I, as most of you, have yet to hold and flex them.

Btw; you ordered both lengths in the FL makeup? Awesome!

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[Shorty_J]

This directional shape in a 123mm width, but in a "ladies" size of 180ish length would definitely be on my radar next year.... for what it's worth.

Maybe 180 isn't a true charger but neither am I... and most other full rocker offerings lately and more center-mounted than I'd prefer.

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[Sylvan]

194 FL113 sold out. Stoked for ya Marshal!

[Marshal Olson]

Marshal what are we thinking on the mount points here? I cant seem to remember.

Excited to get on both sizes of the fl113

as Arild mentions, the center of the sidecut is designed at -11. I am mounting my personal pair at -12 FWIW, but I like set back mounts and run a lot of forward lean in my boots.

I think skier with upright stances and boots could go as far as -9.5 on this ski.

[Buster Highmen]

The hawtn3ss has arrived and the inspector approves.

They're purdy and light.

Now, with what to mount?

I like a mount with the ball of my foot right in the middle or slightly back, which I think is generally the middle of my boot slightly behind the middle of the running length.
I've been liking my old G3s, easy on relative to the more persnickety tectons.

Suggestions?

[Sylvan]

^Hello kitty.

Really looking forward to hearing the Collective's thoughts on the FL, and C113s (and R120s.

I mentioned this to Marshal, but the combination of the shape, 194TL, 45mR, 113 underfoot, and 2550 grams of fiberglass, rubber, poplar, and bamboo, offset by that ^ rocker profile, sounds like a Blackcomb alpine weapon. Can't wait to flex em, and ski em.
I bet the 187TL and sliiightly lighter weight, will be a great inbounds tool for a bunch of situations as well.

Thanks again for the 194s Marshal! Great lineup; excited to see what Heritage Lab brings to market next year.

[arild]

^Hello kitty.

Really looking forward to hearing the Collective's thoughts on the FL, and C113s (and R120s.

I mentioned this to Marshal, but the combination of the shape, 194TL, 45mR, 113 underfoot, and 2550 grams of fiberglass, rubber, poplar, and bamboo, offset by that ^ rocker profile, sounds like a Blackcomb alpine weapon. Can't wait to flex em, and ski em.
I bet the 187TL and sliiightly lighter weight, will be a great inbounds tool for a bunch of situations as well.

Thanks again for the 194s Marshal! Great lineup; excited to see what Heritage Lab brings to market next year.

Are you getting on the FL or carbonz? Please, please, please let us know what you think and feel.

The hawtn3ss has arrived and the inspector approves.

They're purdy and light.

Now, with what to mount?

I like a mount with the ball of my foot right in the middle or slightly back, which I think is generally the middle of my boot slightly behind the middle of the running length.
I've been liking my old G3s, easy on relative to the more persnickety tectons.

Suggestions?

Looking sexy AF. Same goes for you, Buster. Super interested in hearing how the shape and construction work together. FWIW, I bought ATK R14s with the spacers and toe shims from spyderjon back when the preorder started, for my upcoming 187s.

support the raddest project going: http://heritagelabskis.com

[criscam]

damn. i think i want a pair of ea for bc and resort...

[Marshal Olson]

damn. i think i want a pair of ea for bc and resort...

Come over and check em out sometime, if you'd like!

[Marshal Olson]

^Hello kitty.

Really looking forward to hearing the Collective's thoughts on the FL, and C113s (and R120s.

I mentioned this to Marshal, but the combination of the shape, 194TL, 45mR, 113 underfoot, and 2550 grams of fiberglass, rubber, poplar, and bamboo, offset by that ^ rocker profile, sounds like a Blackcomb alpine weapon. Can't wait to flex em, and ski em.
I bet the 187TL and sliiightly lighter weight, will be a great inbounds tool for a bunch of situations as well.

Thanks again for the 194s Marshal! Great lineup; excited to see what Heritage Lab brings to market next year.

Yeah man, nice work snagging the last pair of 194's for the season!

[Marshal Olson]

The hawtn3ss has arrived and the inspector approves.

They're purdy and light.

Now, with what to mount?

I like a mount with the ball of my foot right in the middle or slightly back, which I think is generally the middle of my boot slightly behind the middle of the running length.
I've been liking my old G3s, easy on relative to the more persnickety tectons.

Suggestions?

Hey Buster! Can't wait for you to get these bad chickens on snow.
I am mounting mine at -12 from center, which works out to 85cm from the tail along the top of the ski. I am curious how that lines up versus your method!

[Buster Highmen]

Hey Buster! Can't wait for you to get these bad chickens on snow.
I am mounting mine at -12 from center, which works out to 85cm from the tail along the top of the ski. I am curious how that lines up versus your method!

I'm not sure. What point along the boot or binding is 85 cm from the tail in your vernacular?

[Marshal Olson]

I'm not sure. What point along the boot or binding is 85 cm from the tail in your vernacular?

I would put my midsole at that point