Heritage Lab Skis - AM 50/50 Skis Have Arrived - Dedicated Thread

**Benneke10** · 10-17-2022, 02:04 PM

Yeah I'm super interested in your beveling tactics as well. Gonna have to sell some stuff to try to get a pair of R99s before they disappear

**Doremite** · 10-17-2022, 06:58 PM

I am super stoked to get my hands on the AM 50/50 99s and to support this effort. May not actually have them mounted until late December but will share reactions once I have some time in the drivers seat.

@Marshal, if able to share, approx how many of each build/length/model did you have pressed?

**dub2** · 10-17-2022, 07:36 PM

I'm planning on mounting a pair of 180 50/50 99s with demos, any CO Front Range mags who are keen to give them a go, just give me a shout and you are more than welcome to.

**Doremite** · 10-17-2022, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by dub2

I'm planning on mounting a pair of 180 50/50 99s with demos, any CO Front Range mags who are keen to give them a go, just give me a shout and you are more than welcome to.

That is awesome, dub. Throwing telemark binders on mine so I am guaranteed to be the only person to touch them

**detrusor** · 10-17-2022, 08:09 PM

Picked up my 185 R120’s today. Thee are beautiful, impeccable build. Cannot wait for snow!

Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums

**Shorty_J** · 10-18-2022, 05:05 AM

The only thing that's missing for me on those pics is the camber profile underfoot... Can you post that In it's raw form (i.e not decambered), please?

Sent from my SM-A536W using Tapatalk

**soul_skier** · 10-20-2022, 11:30 AM

Mine came in the mail yesterday and the construction, fit, and finish on them is gorgeous. Now we just need some snow.

Pleasantly surprised on the 50/50 flex. It should be plenty stiff for me (5'10", 160lbs, very aggressive skier) without punishing me too much when I take my foot off the gas pedal.

**Doremite** · 10-20-2022, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by soul_skier

Mine came in the mail yesterday and the construction, fit, and finish on them is gorgeous. Now we just need some snow.

Pleasantly surprised on the 50/50 flex. It should be plenty stiff for me (5'10", 160lbs, very aggressive skier) without punishing me too much when I take my foot off the gas pedal.

Good to hear on flex. 5’11 175lb here. Aggressive (telemark) skier! I prefer a tad softer ski than I’d choose for alpine.

**Marshal Olson** · 10-20-2022, 03:43 PM

Glad they are starting to arrive! Stoked you are liking what you see @soulskier

camber images to follow shortly @shortyj

I will whip up a little base edge bevel video tomorrow as well.

More to come!

**GBB** · 10-20-2022, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by soul_skier

Mine came in the mail yesterday and the construction, fit, and finish on them is gorgeous. Now we just need some snow.

Pleasantly surprised on the 50/50 flex. It should be plenty stiff for me (5'10", 160lbs, very aggressive skier) without punishing me too much when I take my foot off the gas pedal.

This is some very good beta. I’m 6’1 170 with the comp on order and have been questioning whether I’m man enough for them.

Originally Posted by Marshal Olson

Glad they are starting to arrive! Stoked you are liking what you see @soulskier

camber images to follow shortly @shortyj

I will whip up a little base edge bevel video tomorrow as well.

More to come!

Yes! Very intrigued to learn more about this technique.

**m5d5cb** · 10-21-2022, 11:30 AM

50/50 R87 175cm arrived yesterday! All feedback is from my untrained eye.

They do appear very nicely constructed and I really like the 'Korund Glaw' textured topsheets. Extra metal in the nose?
A few small gouges in the tip top-sheet on one ski but I'm sure they will look worse after the first outing with me on them.
The edge sharpness has a touch of variation and there are a few nicks in the base.

I prefer the color and graphics on any of your other offerings (113 and 132 look super rad), but I already have a 96 and 112 waist so I thought this filled the largest gap for me to try out.
I also thought the color 'banding' may have just been in the online image rendering and that it may be a smooth gradient on the actual ski.

Can you provide mounting details? Drill size / depth / etc? Tap for metal sheet.
I see the tick mark intended into the top sheet. Is this center to measure 'Traditional mount -12.5cm, Factory mount -11cm, Modern mount -9.5cm' back from? Or is this the recommended boot center for one of these options?
The tick mark is 98.7cm back from the tip and the skis is 172.5cm long.
Which do you recommend for an intermediate slightly aggressive skier?

Thanks for delivering a boutique product.

**MagnificentUnicorn** · 10-21-2022, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by m5d5cb

50/50 R87 175cm arrived yesterday! All feedback is from my untrained eye.

They do appear very nicely constructed and I really like the 'Korund Glaw' textured topsheets. Extra metal in the nose?
A few small gouges in the tip top-sheet on one ski but I'm sure they will look worse after the first outing with me on them.
The edge sharpness has a touch of variation and there are a few nicks in the base.

I prefer the color and graphics on any of your other offerings (113 and 132 look super rad), but I already have a 96 and 112 waist so I thought this filled the largest gap for me to try out.
I also thought the color 'banding' may have just been in the online image rendering and that it may be a smooth gradient on the actual ski.

Can you provide mounting details? Drill size / depth / etc? Tap for metal sheet.
I see the tick mark intended into the top sheet. Is this center to measure 'Traditional mount -12.5cm, Factory mount -11cm, Modern mount -9.5cm' back from? Or is this the recommended boot center for one of these options?
The tick mark is 98.7cm back and the skis is 172.5cm long.
Which do you recommend for an intermediate slightly aggressive skier?

Thanks for delivering a boutique product.

I can see the “color banding gradations” in your first pic. The skis have metal in them, a 4.1x9mm ski drill bit would be appropriate, tap the the top sheet. This is pretty routine.

Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums

**otto parts** · 10-21-2022, 01:24 PM

Looks like healthy amount of camber-
not flat camber as on website.

Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums

**m5d5cb** · 10-21-2022, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn

I can see the “color banding gradations” in your first pic. The skis have metal in them, a 4.1x9mm ski drill bit would be appropriate, tap the the top sheet. This is pretty routine.

Yes, that's what I planned on. I am moreso looking for guidance on the location and which distance to use but thought I would ask about all of it.

Originally Posted by otto parts

Looks like healthy amount of camber-
not flat camber as on website.

They do have decent tip splay and camber for a fall line ski? The functional length seems to be about 135cm.

**2FUNKY** · 10-21-2022, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by otto parts

Looks like healthy amount of camber-
not flat camber as on website.

Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums

Hope the R99 doesn’t have that much as they are supposed to be flat as well.

Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums

**Doremite** · 10-21-2022, 03:40 PM

Here are the 99s. I am measuring the 180cm at 177cm straight pull. I have no problem w that given the tail profile. Second pic flanked by 179cm Wrens. Kinda a shitty basement shot of the camber but they are currently being hidden from my wife

. I can’t wait to get ‘em on snow.

Click image for larger version.

Name: IMG_4097.JPG
Views: 248
Size: 156.5 KB
ID: 430717

Click image for larger version.

Name: 68807548196__9B5C647E-1AB3-4144-9D90-94B2C84F3375.JPG
Views: 251
Size: 191.9 KB
ID: 430718

**2FUNKY** · 10-21-2022, 03:53 PM

That’s what, 5mm of camber on those 99’s? Maybe more?

Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums

**Doremite** · 10-21-2022, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by 2FUNKY

That’s what, 5mm of camber on those 99’s? Maybe more?

Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums

8mm to my quick/rough measurement, closer to 9 than 7. I am converting from inches. A hair shy of 3/8in maybe 5/16.

Shit, sorry that is ski to ski so off the bench looking at roughly 4mm. Probably not a helpful photo but 4mm looks right.

Click image for larger version.

Name: IMG_4098.JPG
Views: 186
Size: 150.5 KB
ID: 430720

**soul_skier** · 10-21-2022, 10:15 PM

my 188 R99s have ~5mm of camber per ski

**jackattack** · 10-21-2022, 10:27 PM

fkn perfect

**Marshal Olson** · 10-23-2022, 10:32 AM

Now updated with Camber Details and verified measurements.

I would generally say that unweighted combined camber isn't super helpful, but I measured my pairs here to be 1cm combined for the R87, 8.5mm combined for the R99, and 6mm combined for the R120.

I will also update the picture posts earlier in the thread with this data too. Thanks for inquiring on this piece!

They turned out exactly how I wanted em too, and if anyone was looking for something different, please just let me know, more than happy to refund you. Cheers!

**2FUNKY** · 10-23-2022, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by Marshal Olson

Now updated with Camber Details and verified measurements.

I would generally say that unweighted combined camber isn't super helpful, but I measured my pairs here to be 1cm combined for the R87, 8.5mm combined for the R99, and 6mm combined for the R120.

I will also update the picture posts earlier in the thread with this data too. Thanks for inquiring on this piece!

They turned out exactly how I wanted em too, and if anyone was looking for something different, please just let me know, more than happy to refund you. Cheers!

Stoked on that R99 profile!! Come on January!!!

Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums

**Marshal Olson** · 10-23-2022, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by m5d5cb

50/50 R87 175cm arrived yesterday! All feedback is from my untrained eye.

They do appear very nicely constructed and I really like the 'Korund Glaw' textured topsheets. Extra metal in the nose?
A few small gouges in the tip top-sheet on one ski but I'm sure they will look worse after the first outing with me on them.
The edge sharpness has a touch of variation and there are a few nicks in the base.

I prefer the color and graphics on any of your other offerings (113 and 132 look super rad), but I already have a 96 and 112 waist so I thought this filled the largest gap for me to try out.
I also thought the color 'banding' may have just been in the online image rendering and that it may be a smooth gradient on the actual ski.

Can you provide mounting details? Drill size / depth / etc? Tap for metal sheet.
I see the tick mark intended into the top sheet. Is this center to measure 'Traditional mount -12.5cm, Factory mount -11cm, Modern mount -9.5cm' back from? Or is this the recommended boot center for one of these options?
The tick mark is 98.7cm back and the skis is 172.5cm long.
Which do you recommend for an intermediate slightly aggressive skier?

Thanks for delivering a boutique product.

thanks again for the order and the notes and feedback!

I Will shoot you a quick email on the tune stuff, eager to hear more.

Regarding recommending a mount point, could you share your height/weight/boot size? Happy to offer suggestions!

**otto parts** · 10-23-2022, 10:12 PM

Doremite and/or Marshal

On3p run crazy long or?

Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums

**m5d5cb** · 10-23-2022, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by Marshal Olson

Regarding recommending a mount point, could you share your height/weight/boot size? Happy to offer suggestions!

I should have included that. I am 6' 155lb, and a 29.5 / 338BSL.

I want a nicer fast groomer ski so I am excited to try your R87 first.

I measure 11.5mm camber with the skis together standing on the tails (added clarification). I am not at all experienced enough to say whether I would want more or less.