TAHOE 22/23 -THE YEAR OF THE (t)RAM

[powdork]

Little soon to be calling the under.


On the other hand, if the crest here only gets 3’ out of this I’d be fine with it given that the over is going to the high Sierra


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[mogul5480]

Yea if last night's action in the East Bay is any indication, this is still on target for Allegretto's forecast. Rain intensity at times reminiscent of last December, and it went all night.

[old goat]

I measure 14 inches of snow on my deck and that's after half of sunday night's snow melted. Snowing steadily. A little east wind. The snow is wet and heavy.

[TurxSki]

It's made it over to CC now! (Not usually a given thing). Tiny snowflakes, no wind just steadily falling...(can we get a whoop whoop?)

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[lepistoir]

I measure 14 inches of snow on my deck and that's after half of sunday night's snow melted. Snowing steadily. A little east wind. The snow is wet and heavy.

Your 14 plus the 21 still forecast for sugar bowl as of this morning on open snow makes 35, which falls short of the low end BA predicted on Sunday for >8k on the crest. Just putting down that marker. Not a complaint about The snow. 3 feet is still 3 feet. But the forecast was off. This did seem like an odd sequence of storms. That cold front was weird. Like it was actually chasing the AR on Sunday, not leading the cold low that's here now. Like, the three elements of a good storm are here, but strangely spaced out.

Anyhoo, mammoth is going to be popular until any of the majors open around here.

[~mikey b]

snow lab is saying they’ve had 36” so far


go to the source

[powdork]

Does Old Goat live at 8k?
How does that jibe with 14" we have here in Tahoma (as of an hour ago)? With likely another 18" on the way. Puts us on the upper end of the forecast

[heckacali]

Don't count your snow chickens....

[lepistoir]

Does Old Goat live at 8k?
How does that jibe with 14" we have here in Tahoma (as of an hour ago)? With likely another 18" on the way. Puts us on the upper end of the forecast

snow lab is saying they’ve had 36” so far

go to the source

Not to dox anybuddy, but I get the feeling they're near the west end of Donner lake so about 6k. Not a huge difference between them and 8k when snow levels are below 5000. Snow lab is only 6900. You're right about comparing apples to apples tho, as far as Fx to reports. I'm just not seeing it. I was on rose yesterday and have no idea where they came up with 12" Sunday night. There's 6-12" of snow on the ground at 8500 up there and that's from at least three storms. Reports from Tahoe City and up ward canyon of barely a couple inches on the ground. Very thin coverage. Maybe the official numbers will verify. Like I said, gratitude in full effect. Just seeing some interesting variations and just not what I would expect to see from 3-4' storm totals. I'm wondering what it will look like after a couple sunny days reveal all the rocks with only an inch of concealment. I could just be spoiled by those amazing Tahoe storms that only drop 14" of snow but it's 10:1 and completely covers everything.

[~mikey b]

old goat and the snow lab do not fudge the numbers for marketing

[powdork]

Not to dox anybuddy, but I get the feeling they're near the west end of Donner lake so about 6k. Not a huge difference between them and 8k when snow levels are below 5000. Snow lab is only 6900. You're right about comparing apples to apples tho, as far as Fx to reports. I'm just not seeing it. I was on rose yesterday and have no idea where they came up with 12" Sunday night. There's 6-12" of snow on the ground at 8500 up there and that's from at least three storms. Reports from Tahoe City and up ward canyon of barely a couple inches on the ground. Very thin coverage. Maybe the official numbers will verify. Like I said, gratitude in full effect. Just seeing some interesting variations and just not what I would expect to see from 3-4' storm totals. I'm wondering what it will look like after a couple sunny days reveal all the rocks with only an inch of concealment. I could just be spoiled by those amazing Tahoe storms that only drop 14" of snow but it's 10:1 and completely covers everything.

skied rose on sunday as the storm was starting. there was very little to no snow walking from the road through the woods to the bottom of the galena lift. The only snow left there was the man made.

Chair 6 is spinning at the wood.

[skier666]

November 1994 was off the charts...skiing all over Chair 6. Feels like yesterday haha.

[scmartin69]

November 1994 was off the charts...skiing all over Chair 6. Feels like yesterday haha.

I was skiing yellow chair at Alpine Meadows in that same storm. First day ever skiing in Tahoe.

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[mogul5480]

I'm sorry, if they get 5 ft of snow and don't open Kirkwood early for at least Thanksgiving weekend, I will have no choice but to take recourse.

I could shut this place down, sir. I could take my traveler's checks to a competing resort. I could write a letter to your Board of Tourism and I could have this place condemned! I could put strychnine in the guacamole!

[teledad]

Sorry, I got new snow tires on Saturday and derailed the hype train. BA didn't know so he didn't have time to adjust the forecast.

It's been nuking all day on the summit though.

[powpig]

November 1994 was off the charts...skiing all over Chair 6. Feels like yesterday haha.

Nov 10. I was there! First day of the year was a full on pow day. I was actually thinking about this and pondering a repeat when reading the forecast last week.

[skier666]

Nov 10. I was there! First day of the year was a full on pow day. I was actually thinking about this and pondering a repeat when reading the forecast last week.

Right? That's my November baseline for early season top Sierra skiiing. Another highlight was Chair 6 on Halloween 2006...I think, but years getting fuzzy at 45.

[TahoeJ]

Old Goat is at Donner lake level and it's kind of surprising how much more snow you get up the hill just a few hundred feet higher at 6400. And even more so at 6700 in this warm snow line era.

[El Chupacabra]

I'm sorry, if they get 5 ft of snow and don't open Kirkwood early for at least Thanksgiving weekend, I will have no choice but to take recourse.

I could shut this place down, sir. I could take my traveler's checks to a competing resort. I could write a letter to your Board of Tourism and I could have this place condemned! I could put strychnine in the guacamole!

Just don't light the place on fire.

[Eastern Sierra Skier]

November 1994 was off the charts...skiing all over Chair 6. Feels like yesterday haha.

1994-1995 was an epic ski season. I was living in Mammoth and they were open by Halloween and didn’t close until Aug. The Mtn was open for something like 270 days.


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[old goat]

I'm at 6K, where lepistoir says. My ground snow load is 315 psf. By the airport it's 180. Up on Skislope at 6800 it's 411.

It's been snowing steadily all day but not getting much deeper--the snow is heavy enough to compress under its own weight. At higher elevations probably not so much. I once read that in norcal most water falls between 5-7K on the west slope, but of course the snow amounts are higher at higher elevations because the snow is colder/drier.

I have the unscientific impression that we're seeing more late fall and early spring precip and less Jan-Mar. Seems like it's been that way for the last 3 seasons, which could just be my weak memory, a coincidence, or a new pattern brought on by a changing climate. Anyway, I'd rather speculate about the weather than about who controls Congress. At least with the weather there's the potential for an upside.

[mmmm...pow!]

Right? That's my November baseline for early season top Sierra skiiing. Another highlight was Chair 6 on Halloween 2006...I think, but years getting fuzzy at 45.

You might be thinking 2004. I remember getting some October backcountry days and hiking to Estelle the first weekend of November that year. But maybe 2006 was good early, too, yeah things get fuzzy.

[powpig]

Any Sacramento mag want to check out John Petrucci tonight at the Crest?
I've gotta ticket I'm not willing to brave the snowy roads to use.
Shoot me a PM and it's yours.
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/john-pe...s-404806546277

[frorider]

About an hour ago it went from snowing to nuking here in the Dirty South.

[Ottime]

November 1994 was off the charts...skiing all over Chair 6. Feels like yesterday haha.

October 2004 was even better (okay, I was not around yet in '94 - but we were skiing all over Chair 10 by Halloween that year).

Now I see your post, but pretty sure that was 2004. Maybe it was 2006, as yes, years get fuzzy.

When I first started skiing in Tahoe around '99 or so, I juts thought that the season always started with a 5' dump sometime before Thanksgiving. Then that all seemed to change.