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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by cat in january View Post
    Good luck with your one ski quiver, it’s a noble cause
    And a futile one. Because I still have the S3s, and soon will have MFrees mounted. And have a pair of Folsoms that I never ski but could. And a pair of Armada somethings that are my hard pack ski. And a pair of Jak BCs that may be a permanent sand ski now. And an old dynastar assault V8 that are sand skis. And 2 pairs of xc skis.

    Quiver of one for me doesn't mean I only have 1 ski, it is more an idea that the ski has to be well rounded enough that I can just grab it whenever or travel with it as my only ski, conditions be damned.
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  2. #102
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    Gotcha, you probably said that up thread and I am jumping in late. Luckily the dunes here in Maine are small so no need for a sand ski quiver

  3. #103
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    Another plug for the google sheets ski database… anyone can access, not as sexy as the quiver pics but has members, height, weight, full quiver deets including lengths and binders…
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...GUqNszy8k/edit

  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by auvgeek View Post
    Since this thread has devolved substantially from the original question, I'll throw in my pro tip: don't listen to any you haven't personally skied with (and chatted gear). Or your friends haven't skied with.

    The TGR hype train gets out of control, and anyone who disagrees is a bad skier. If someone doesn't like a burly ski, they can't find the front of their boots. If someone doesn't like a soft ski, they must have terrible balance and are overcompensating. But for any level of skier (past intermediate), there are so many different styles that lend themselves to different skis. In general, people tend to prefer skis that they ski a lot (or are similar to skis they ski a lot).

    /rant
    I feel like I both agree and disagree with this take.

    The TGR groupthink can get out of control. Broad overgeneralization and stigma aren't exempt from a lot of gear that gets attention. Hell, just go take a peak at the padded ski pole thread - I'm one of the perpetrators.

    That being said, I've found a lot of good input from TGR about gear. It has required that I don't take an opinion's value without a bit of context from the author though. Specifically, the actual reviews posted here are pretty useful. Largely because the people going out of their way to write a review have a higher chance of being more objective. I haven't skied with anyone from this place (that I know of) but I could probably point to several people that ski similarly to me, and their input in the past has helped me make decisions.

    Lastly, even though there is a large amount of relativity when it comes to skiing, there are still plenty of universals. The best opinions here usually include relative takes, as well as the universal ones.

    /end 2 cents.
    Last edited by DarthMarkus; 11-27-2022 at 09:53 PM.

  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthMarkus View Post
    I feel like I both agree and disagree with this take.

    The TGR groupthink can get out of control. Broad overgeneralization and stigma aren't exempt from a lot of gear that gets attention. Hell, just go take a peak at the padded ski pole thread - I'm one of the perpetrators.

    That being said, I've found a lot of good input from TGR about gear. It has required that I don't take an opinion's value without a bit of context from the author though.
    I've found weight to be the most important variable, as LHutz Esq said above.
    A ski that is just right for a 160# skier will often be noodly and weak for a 220# skier, and a ski that's just right for a 220# skier can easily be a dead, immovable plank for a 160# skier.

    I've experienced this myself. A ski that someone else found to be a playful, hard-charging carver was, for me, a nearly uncontrollable plank that locked me into one turn shape and required jumping to get out. Turns out they weighed 50# more than I did.

    Second most important is whether the reviewer likes to ski from a centered stance, or whether they depend on leaning on the tips or tails.
    People who like to ski from a centered stance tend to enjoy short running length and lots of rocker, and they tend not to like skis with tip rocker only.
    People who like to drive the tips hard tend to prefer longer running length and tip rocker only, and they tend not to like short running lengths and lots of rocker.
    (Tip rocker, but no or very little tail rocker, causes the effective mount point to change radically on hard vs. soft snow, which throws off a centered stance skier. That's me: I've disliked every ski I've tried that has a lot more tip rocker than tail rocker.)

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