2022/23 NBA THREAD: IT'S WIDE OPEN JUST LIKE YOUR MOM

[TahoeJ]

Just as a general caveat you should always take John Hollinger’s forecasting with a huge grain of salt. He had the Warriors in 2022 winning 39 games… but instead of sniffing the lottery they won a title.

As far as Denver goes, with his hightened profile during this post season run there’s a pretty reasonable chance Murray will earn an All NBA spot next year and become eligible for a supermax. He’s already extension eligible for close to $50 mil per season over three years as compared to his current cost in the low 30’s. If you think he's going to just chill and play out his rookie extension contract after tearing his ACL once already, well, good luck with that. Is the cap going to go up? Of course, but that doesn't just cover everything up. But there’s no point arguing over this stuff, you’ll see.

[EWG]

Just as a general caveat you should always take John Hollinger’s forecasting with a huge grain of salt. He had the Warriors in 2022 winning 39 games… but instead of sniffing the lottery they won a title.

As far as Denver goes, with his hightened profile during this post season run there’s a pretty reasonable chance Murray will earn an All NBA spot next year and become eligible for a supermax. He’s already extension eligible for close to $50 mil per season over three years as compared to his current cost in the low 30’s. But there’s no point arguing over this stuff, you’ll see.

Yes, and that's why I said that Murray resigning in two years could put pressure on the Nugs. But they'll have 20 mil or more room to fit him in, which should work fine. And it's not forecasting in this case. It's just math. I think the biggest confusion is that it's not the cap number that matters, it's the active cap number plus an free agents you have to resign. The nuggets have no important free agents and are well under the second apron - and still have a MLE. Really, they are in just about perfect shape for the next 2 years, cap wise, assuming no one gets badly hurt or falls off a cliff.

Their biggest issues are probably Brown and Green. Green actually is a FA, but I don't think they bring him back. And while they have the money to sign Brown to a higher number, they can only give him a mil or 2 more under the rules for his slot if he opts out - which may not be enough. Ironically, the replacement that has been brought up a few times if he leaves is GP from the Warriors.

Nuggets are in good shape cap wise, which is why you've seen no national noise around them having cap problems. They probably have some decisions to make at the margins (rotation spot 6.)

[PB]

Turns out, for a guy who's technically not a geezer yet, Scottie Pippen is a jerk.

[TahoeJ]

Yes, and that's why I said that Murray resigning in two years could put pressure on the Nugs. But they'll have 20 mil or more room to fit him in, which should work fine. And it's not forecasting in this case. It's just math. I think the biggest confusion is that it's not the cap number that matters, it's the active cap number plus an free agents you have to resign. The nuggets have no important free agents and are well under the second apron - and still have a MLE. Really, they are in just about perfect shape for the next 2 years, cap wise, assuming no one gets badly hurt or falls off a cliff.

Their biggest issues are probably Brown and Green. Green actually is a FA, but I don't think they bring him back. And while they have the money to sign Brown to a higher number, they can only give him a mil or 2 more under the rules for his slot if he opts out - which may not be enough. Ironically, the replacement that has been brought up a few times if he leaves is GP from the Warriors.

Nuggets are in good shape cap wise, which is why you've seen no national noise around them having cap problems. They probably have some decisions to make at the margins (rotation spot 6.)

Okay dude. Just quoting this for future reference. Cheers.

[up an down]

Turns out, for a guy who's technically not a geezer yet, Scottie Pippen is a jerk.

He always has been.

[simple]

Is it game time yet?

[brutah]

For real! Let's go nuggets!

I expect tonight's game to be more competitive. Heat shot terrible in game one, only got the foul line twice and I won't call the refereeing bad or lopsided in game 1, the heat just weren't aggressive. I still think the nuggets will win the series but I suspect some adjustments from spo and much closer game tonight. On the flip side, the two nuggets stars weren't as dominant as typical. Neither Jokic or Murray had an amazing game, and they're capable of much more. Obviously with Gordon, MPJ having good games less is needed. Also, I think one of the reasons Jokic is such a prolific passer is that he's 7 feet and initiating passes from 6-10 feet up whereas your typical point guard/playmaker is passing the ball from a lower elevation (easier to defend/deflect). Just a thought I had while walking the dog last night.

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[The SnowShow]

They have to stop with these scenic shots of Colorado during the ESPN broadcast. And the announcers gushing over how beautiful it is. Enough.

[Skistack]

Is Cody Zeller the whitest guy in the NBA?


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[Mustonen]

This is fun.

I want Miami to win. I don’t expect them to. But I want them to.

[SumJongGuy]

A chink in the armor!

[t-the-east]

Jokic = Drago
Butler = Rocky

I didn’t hear no bell

[up an down]

Great game to watch

[54-46]

Is Cody Zeller the whitest guy in the NBA?


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I laughed. Who would be on the All-NBA white guy team right now?


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[Duffman]

Great game. Miami just keeps coming, really thought they were toast after the end of the 3rd Q.

[fool]

Ugh, great game indeed, though bummed Nugs couldn't pull it out. Overall it was great basketball though. Miami's D was solid.


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[54-46]

Nuggets lost their composure a little with the dumb fouls.

Jeff Green fucking KILLED the Nuggets. 11-0 run mostly due to his inattention.


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[Adolf Allerbush]

I laughed. Who would be on the All-NBA white guy team right now?


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Off the top of my head, Jokic, Luka, Sabonis, Porziņģis, Markkanen

[Danno]

Nuggets didn't play great but still almost had it.

How on earth did the refs not call goal tending on that "block" in the 4th Q? It was obvious.

[cinnepa]

Off the top of my head, Jokic, Luka, Sabonis, Porziņģis, Markkanen

Add Bird....or do you mean current players?

[54-46]

Off the top of my head, Jokic, Luka, Sabonis, Porziņģis, Markkanen

Bench: S.Adams, Herro, Caruso, Huerter, Reaves, F. Wagner

Does Brook Lopez count?


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[brutah]

Off the top of my head, Jokic, Luka, Sabonis, Porziņģis, Markkanen

Porzingis, really? I guess his stats look good, but man he looks bad on the floor. Plus it seems like he's a locker room cancer.

Tyler Herro is a stud and only 23. And we haven't seen bench fashion like his since AD himself. I'd put him in the top 5 or bojan bogdanvic. And I don't know about having 2 centers in the top 5

Heat regaining Herro could be a difference maker in these finals.

I wasn't surprised heat took this game, but I thought Murray was going to completely engage and light it up to steal the game. I liked watching him and Butler battling it out at the end.

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[mcski]

No Love for Kevin? I’d put him on any current all whitey team for sure

[riser4]

Why don't I like Kevin Love? I try Guy got under my skin in Cleveland.

[Mustonen]

I really like the tone and tenor of both these teams. None of this bullshit braggadocio that Tatum was all puffed up about. Enjoying listening to both coaches and the star players outside of any X’s and O’s.