The timing here is Putin wanting a political bargaining chip and a scalp. That's it. A wholly corrupt country run by corrupt tyrants who celebrate human indignities, cruelty and suffering. The motives are clear.
The timing here is Putin wanting a political bargaining chip and a scalp. That's it. A wholly corrupt country run by corrupt tyrants who celebrate human indignities, cruelty and suffering. The motives are clear.
So, rather than thinking that she accidentally packed them, you prefer to think that she always packed them in the 7 years she's been playing there but this time they didn't look the other way. Because reasons. And you also assume she's been coddled since she was 8 years old because of her athletic ability.
Ok.
"fuck off you asshat gaper shit for brains fucktard wanker." - Jesus Christ
"She was tossing her bean salad with the vigor of a Drunken Pop princess so I walked out of the corner and said.... "need a hand?"" - Odin
"everybody's got their hooks into you, fuck em....forge on motherfuckers, drag all those bitches across the goal line with you." - (not so) ill-advised strategy
exactly. Maybe she packed them accidentally, or maybe californiagrown is right and she always packed them, or maybe she didn't pack them but because she is a known THC user, Russia decided they needed a pawn and people would believe that she did it. Nobody here knows the truth. What is obvious is that regardless of whether she did pack them, she is and always has been used as a pawn in a much larger political game.
"fuck off you asshat gaper shit for brains fucktard wanker." - Jesus Christ
"She was tossing her bean salad with the vigor of a Drunken Pop princess so I walked out of the corner and said.... "need a hand?"" - Odin
"everybody's got their hooks into you, fuck em....forge on motherfuckers, drag all those bitches across the goal line with you." - (not so) ill-advised strategy
It sure is accomplishing a lot for Putin by destroying America internally. Here and elsewhere we have a lot of whattaboutism and a distinct lack of sympathy for a person and athlete that brought home 2 golds who might die halfway across the world from her family for something pretty minor. Of course an individual is responsible to "follow the rules" but when the sentence doesn't fit the crime... are there even rules? It sucks this famous gun dealer might get flipped in a trade and it sucks that she is being thrown in jail for nine years. It's ok to just say that the situation blows rather than grandstanding about how weed isn't universally legalized at home or that supposedly people are in jail somewhere else. Were the "people in SE asia" taken to score a political victory?
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Regardless of how or why some vape cartridges found their way into her bag, the story here is that she is being crazily over-sentenced, solely because of the above. If she had been sentenced per common sense AND according to russian law, she would have been free months ago. But, russian leadership has no scruples and wants her as a political pawn.
No theyre not. Take a glance at Fox news and read all the hateful messages about how as a supporter of BLM she deserves everything shes getting and more. Shes a gay, liberal, black, woman... you can imagine how not quiet that contingent is when voicing their opinions of her. Shoot, maybe if we amplify that contingent to putin, he will think she isnt really a good pawn after all?
Oh I know. And I know, you know I meant their messaging inconsistency and usual vapid signaling of 'F all other countries, we support America and Americans first and always". They just mean support their political allies and screw their perceived enemies regardless of American or to the benefit of America. The usual bad faith politics and disingenuous bullshit..
"fuck off you asshat gaper shit for brains fucktard wanker." - Jesus Christ
"She was tossing her bean salad with the vigor of a Drunken Pop princess so I walked out of the corner and said.... "need a hand?"" - Odin
"everybody's got their hooks into you, fuck em....forge on motherfuckers, drag all those bitches across the goal line with you." - (not so) ill-advised strategy
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this particular issue makes some weird bedfellows. i guess there’s enough hatred to go around.
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I think the charges were, in fact, trafficking. She pled guilty. Apparently they wouldn't "bargain" with her like they do in the US.
And I'm sure she is and will be used as a bargaining chip after serving a year or two.
In order to properly convert this thread to a polyasshat thread to more fully enrage the liberal left frequenting here...... (insert latest democratic blunder of your choice).
IDK, i wouldnt be surprised for her to become a cause celebre in the sports world- NFL, NBA, MLB etc. Remember how many idiots lost their mind when folks took a knee during the anthem the first time around?? Putin wins when people want her back, and he also wins when people dont want her back and she becomes a divisive storyline in american culture.
Wow, okay, trafficking charges with that little on her makes it pretty obvious she’s a political pawn and I hope they just get her home. Having said that, let’s also hope this is a wake up call about our own drug policies back here. (Yeah right)
I ski 135 degree chutes switch to the road.
I beleive it's part of a grand plan to turn her into a FSB spy. I believe her sentence gets reduced if she agrees to attend a re-education and training camp in Okhotsk for 24 months and then she'll get released back to America with microphones in her sneakers.
"timberridge is terminally vapid" -- a fortune cookie in Yueyang
On one hand, the charges are clearly trumped up. 9 years in a penal colony is ridiculous, and the U.S. should not stand by as Russia plays political games with our citizens.
On the other hand, as a high profile person that went and played basketball in a country that's an enemy of the U.S., Griner took a risk in return for a big payday. From what I've seen, she also admitted to having vape cartridges with her, which was an even bigger risk. While the charges against her are purely political theater, trading Griner for a war criminal seems wrong on a bunch of different levels. She took a personal risk for personal reward, and this time it didn't pan out for her. Which is unfortunate, but it also doesn't feel like something the U.S. needs to go to great lengths to rectify.
Russia only recognizes power. Dealt with a strong pimp hand at all and any times, regardless of fairness. Over reach, unreasonably so. Fuck them. At every opportunity we should lean on them like a fucking boss.
I have mixed emotions about the situation. Maybe the best I can express is, I think there's value in a societal expectation about conducting yourself in such a way where you are unlikely to be easily exploited by an adversary. I'm not ready to lay that on one person tho; I can think of worse examples.
Willing to trade one oligarch yacht.
This part is absolutely true. While she has been playing there for years and describing Russia as an enemy of the US is only a very recent event (while Putin has always been evil, and while Russia has been engaged in a cold war against us for years, the safety of people traveling there has not been an issue until the Ukraine thing happened), I believe there was a State Dept advisory already in effect when she went there this time.
The only admission has come while in custody, as part of her trial. It was a sham trial and her conviction was actually required in order for any prisoner swap to occur. She was certainly advised to admit to the crime. Whether she committed the crime is unknown to us, her admission in a Russian court is meaningless. Once she is not in Russia and can speak freely, I will believe an admission then. Until that moment, there has been no meaningful admission.
"fuck off you asshat gaper shit for brains fucktard wanker." - Jesus Christ
"She was tossing her bean salad with the vigor of a Drunken Pop princess so I walked out of the corner and said.... "need a hand?"" - Odin
"everybody's got their hooks into you, fuck em....forge on motherfuckers, drag all those bitches across the goal line with you." - (not so) ill-advised strategy
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