Developer mags? How can we gum up the works?

[skaredshtles]

Of all the prickish pricks on this board, muted is well down the list.

Is it some sort of competition?

[XXX-er]

[Conundrum]

Is it some sort of competition?

Seems like it might be to some.

[old goat]

Re the sex offender thing--might be worth finding out the details of the case, because there aren't a lot of convicted rapists running around free and with the
wherewithal to develop a property. Was this one of those statutory rape cases with two consenting parites, one a few years older. Not that that's OK but it would make a difference in how much of a threat this guy is.

[Ted Striker]

Is he under any restrictions along the lines of "can't live within 1/4 mile of a school"? If so, maybe you can get together with the neighbors and open a day care / Montessori school etc.

Start a daycare in your home. Registered sex offenders can't be within X feet of your house.

We got one of those notices in the mail a while ago. At the time, all I cared about was how close to our house. Looking at it now, it reads 32 yo man, guilty of 2nd degree child molestation, and 4 yo victim. And his address is exactly ONE BLOCK from an elementary School. What in the actual fuck? A block.

Didn’t Arrested Development cover this? New developments, sex offenders? Sudden Valley!

Michael: What do you think of when you hear the name, "Sudden Valley"?

George Michael: Salad dressing, I think. But for some reason I don't want to eat it.

[JimmyCarter]

We're going to need basinbeater to get out there and act his ass off. Or give them all aids.

Everyone already has aids

[ötzi]

Is it some sort of competition?

No, just a list. You'd be surprised who's on it.

[jfost]

…. Looking at it now, it reads 32 yo man, guilty of 2nd degree child molestation, and 4 yo victim. And his address is exactly ONE BLOCK from an elementary School. What in the actual fuck? A block…

I mean sure it’s bad, but 2nd degree doesn’t even move the needle on the 0 to Larry Nassar scale.

[Falcon3]

If someone has paid his debt to society and is following all the rules afterwards, and you have a problem with that, maybe *you* should move.

Same with the property. If you and your neighbors didn’t want it developed, you had the last 30 years to buy it and protect it. You chose to let it sit and now if you have a problem with someone legally developing it, you should just move rather than telling someone else what to do with their property.

HFS people this isn’t hard.

[Ted Striker]

If directed at me, that's a big whoosh.

Alcoholics shouldn't live across the street from liquor stores.

[ötzi]

If someone has paid his debt to society and is following all the rules afterwards, and you have a problem with that, maybe *you* should move.

Doesn't sound like he's following all the rules to me.

... the guy is a convicted rapist, and was recently arrested in Salt Lake for knowingly failing to register as a sex offender.

[Conundrum]

Recently arrested…didn’t say convicted. Innocent until proven guilty. I’m sure just a big misunderstanding. Hold your horses parents. Just pulling your chain.

But since the topic came up and I’ve never looked, there’s nine rapers and three kiddie porn dudes within a mile of me. All seemingly old enough to not be able to chase down much and convictions in the 80s. Still gross.

Well, thanks for fucking up my ignorant and blissful weekend. Off to grill and figure out a salad from the garden like I was going to before the research.

[LongShortLong]

Can't tell how steep that is. Given the fault, Ima guess it's steep and not that stable, and those properties on the top are already on borrowed time. Rustle up some articles on slides and slumps and the resulting broken houses and deaths. There was one north of Seattle a few years ago, that stirred up the media, but there's lots of examples. Use those to rile up the neighbors for support. Also bring in the atmospheric rivers topic. Usually it's one of those that gets the dormant slides moving again.

I know nothing, but geotech may be the best way to scare this off. Convince folks the land is unsuitable for development. It probably is. And regardless of development, learn the signs so you know when to move, before your house is in that drainage with another house on top.

[Conundrum]

Good point. There was a big one in Boise a few years ago. Can’t remember how many million dollar houses were a total loss, maybe 5-7. Still might be tied up in court.

[zion zig zag]

Utah is legislated by home builders and land developers. Good luck.

Also, I think people knew this was a bad idea, but property rights and all: https://www.ksl.com/article/31008703...t-crushed-home


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[Buster Highmen]

There was one north of Seattle a few years ago, that stirred up the media, but there's lots of examples.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Oso_mudslide

https://www.usgs.gov/news/featured-s...-oso-landslide

https://www.usgs.gov/news/featured-s...ide-washington

Oso is just above the confuence of Deer Creek and the Stillaguamish River. Deer Creek used to be a major spawning ground for steelhead for which the North Fork of the Stilly was reknown and storied by Zane Grey and Roderick Haig-Brown. Logging in the area caused major landslides into Deer Creek, destroying the fishery.

https://nwasianweekly.com/2014/04/my...ental%20lesson.

[BCMtnHound]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Oso_mudslide

https://www.usgs.gov/news/featured-s...-oso-landslide

https://www.usgs.gov/news/featured-s...ide-washington

Oso is just above the confuence of Deer Creek and the Stillaguamish River. Deer Creek used to be a major spawning ground for steelhead for which the North Fork of the Stilly was reknown and storied by Zane Grey and Roderick Haig-Brown. Logging in the area caused major landslides into Deer Creek, destroying the fishery.

https://nwasianweekly.com/2014/04/my...ental%20lesson.

TGR thread
https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...d.php?t=275974

[TBS]

This happened in my old neighborhood in 2008
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/...s_into_2n.html

Due to leaking irrigation undermining the soil IIRC
These were not starter homes.
Different climate and soils than SLC but you get the point
Lawsuit city!

[highangle]

[XXX-er]

They wouldn't allow marijuana stores within a block of schools up here

which is confusing cuz everybody knows the best places to score weed is schools or prisons

[Ted Striker]

They don't want the competition

[SirVicSmasher]

I live in Salt Lake City, and there is a large parcel behind my house with a fault line going through it. The owner is an asshole and has been trying to sell for 30 years. Developer after developer has passed on it, and now there is a guy who supposedly will be doing some drilling to determine fault line location. His plan is to begin building in 2 weeks (I doubt it... but...). Apparently the plan is to close on the lot, build a single family home. Past developers have looked at trying to get as many as 9 homes on the parcel, this guy has produced a drawing for 4, but the word is that he wants to just build one for now. I think it is a get the foot in the door and the sue for subdivision and entitlements.
What are levers available to gum things up and make it as difficult as possible for this guy to get his permit? Permit is not issued as of yet to my knowledge. We have spoken with the city many times over the years and they understand the significant challenges of building on the lot, including steep natural grades and cliffs, active fault lines, lack of storm water drain easement, required private drive and road to any homes that will not be maintained by the city.

Looking for ideas that we can act on to gum things up and make it as difficult/expensive for the guy as possible. Does not help that the guy is a convicted rapist, and was recently arrested in Salt Lake for knowingly failing to register as a sex offender.

Wow ur a piece of shit

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[SirVicSmasher]

If you don't want it it built buy it otherwise stfu

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[basinbeater]

Wow ur a piece of shit

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Thanks for the advice buddy. Have a nice day.

[ex-powderbroker]

We're not short on houses, we have too many people.

it’s really a failure of michigan, indiana, missouri, etc, to market properly.