New EXO+ casings suck?

[skaredshtles]

^^^ yeah, that.

If I ran 22 psi in my rear tire in any casing, I'd be running 0 psi shortly thereafter. I have no idea how people pull that off, at least without an insert.

The tire, the rim... *everything* would be destroyed if I tried to pull off that kind of shit.

[skinipenem]

^^^ yeah, that.

If I ran 22 psi in my rear tire in any casing, I'd be running 0 psi shortly thereafter. I have no idea how people pull that off, at least without an insert.

Even with an insert that shit would be so squirmy.

Been running 26r 22f exo+ cushcore tubeless. Works well. Don't think I could go lower.


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[toast2266]

Even with an insert that shit would be so squirmy.

Been running 26r 22f exo+ cushcore tubeless. Works well. Don't think I could go lower.


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Yeah, that's around where I landed with inserts. I can get away with going a smidge lower with DH casings and no insert, which I generally prefer.

[whyturn]

I run 20 on my rear big Betty. Worked good AFAIK

I weigh 188 and ride double green trails


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[skinipenem]

I run 20 on my rear big Betty. Worked good AFAIK

I weigh 188 and ride double green trails


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Double whoooooaaah

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[zion zig zag]

I ride so hard, on rock so sharp, that anything less than a double down casing with cushcore and 50 psi results in everyone at the trail network I’m riding getting sidewall tears.


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[toast2266]

My point wasn't that you've gotta run burly tires or high pressure to prove your radness.

My point was that a lot of people in here and in the other tire thread are complaining about tearing maxxis, and then talking about how [insert brand] tires hold up way better. And that's usually true, because [insert brand] tires are almost always substantially heavier than a maxxis exo tire.

People would have more luck judging a tire's durability if they looked at the weights instead of the hot patch on the sidewall. It doesn't matter what the marketing department says - more material is how you make a tire durable.

For me, somewhere around 1200-1250 grams for a 29er is about where a rear tire will hold up for me, regardless of brand.

[John_B]

I ride so hard, on rock so sharp, that anything less than a double down casing with cushcore and 50 psi results in everyone at the trail network I’m riding getting sidewall tears.


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You too?

Add me to the list of people who don't shred hard enough to have Exo issues at 25 psi. Although I probably just cursed myself

[XXX-er]

the local area is not super rocky but also ran the DHF/ DHR at Moab, no flats on DHR / DHF/ Agressor/ Assegai all run at around 20psi so i keep buying them

[panchosdad]

Been running EXO rear tires for 10+ years at 22-25 psi. I've had maybe 3 punctures in that time. 150lbs.

Bike park, Moab, New England, CO high country....

If I were racing enduro, they wouldn't cut it, but for every day riding, I've had good success.

My guess would be that this is the experience of the majority of riders out there.

[bagtagley]

It’s funny to watch the repeating cycle of flat tire smugness and disbelief. It’s just a matter of time before the “you can’t pinch flat tubeless” argument ramps back up. Ultimately, “YMMV” isn’t just an appropriate response, but a necessary mindset when discussing tires across a wide array of terrain, conditions, abilities, speeds, and countries.

[kootenayskier]

Random anecdote. We’ve been running an annual poker ride on our Seven Summits trail for the past 16 years. It’s long(36km), rough and rocky. We’ve always awarded a prize for the most flats, and there’d always be some poor sucker who’d had 5 or 7. This year, 70 riders, and not a single flat. My takeaway, that tires are better than they’ve ever been. I’m running exo Minions at 23/25 without issue.