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  1. #201
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmmgood View Post
    I’m 6’1” 200 lbs and just about to turn 50! I’ve been riding the Captis 184 for groomers and Atris 189 for everything else. Love the Atris and it’s never really felt too long…maybe towards the end of a hard day in the steep skied out trees


    Every year we do a January Baldface trip and last year I had my Atris 189s with waist deep powder. I had a blast on them but they did tend to feel a little long in the deep, steeper tight trees. I found myself wishing I had something that was a little easier, maybe even slower at times. The 189 Atris was a lot of effort to ski in those conditions. They were a blast because you definitely sank deeper, and fun when it opened up….but a lot of work.


    This year Im looking to add a “just powder” ski for cat trips and Baldface. I haven’t ridden a +115 ski in the deep like the Nocta. This is where I’m struggling…I keep seeing the Nocta skis shorter with the full rocker. Will the Nocta 190 feel too long in those deep, tighter moments like the Atris 189 did for me? Should I go for the Nocta 186 for a more playful, floaty, maneuverable, easier going ride, or am I worrying about it too much and just go for the 190?
    im 5’11” 190 and ski the 190 nocta in tight spaces no problem. The 185 skied a little shorter then I wanted. Definitely get the 190.

  2. #202
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmmgood View Post
    I’m 6’1” 200 lbs and just about to turn 50! I’ve been riding the Captis 184 for groomers and Atris 189 for everything else. Love the Atris and it’s never really felt too long…maybe towards the end of a hard day in the steep skied out trees


    Every year we do a January Baldface trip and last year I had my Atris 189s with waist deep powder. I had a blast on them but they did tend to feel a little long in the deep, steeper tight trees. I found myself wishing I had something that was a little easier, maybe even slower at times. The 189 Atris was a lot of effort to ski in those conditions. They were a blast because you definitely sank deeper, and fun when it opened up….but a lot of work.


    This year Im looking to add a “just powder” ski for cat trips and Baldface. I haven’t ridden a +115 ski in the deep like the Nocta. This is where I’m struggling…I keep seeing the Nocta skis shorter with the full rocker. Will the Nocta 190 feel too long in those deep, tighter moments like the Atris 189 did for me? Should I go for the Nocta 186 for a more playful, floaty, maneuverable, easier going ride, or am I worrying about it too much and just go for the 190?
    I haven't tried 185 but 190 is one of the most intuitive and easiest pow sticks I've been on. Last April we got a nice storm in the middle of the week and I had them on my feet but had Corvus in the truck bed just in case. After a few hours everything got tracked out and seemed like a good time to grab Corvus. In heavy wet snow it felt grabby and sluggish so I went back to Nocta and it was just as fun as in AM. Even though I had Tectons on them. As long as the snow is soft you won't notice their width or length.

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  3. #203
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    Oct 2011
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    Quote Originally Posted by whambat View Post

    I have heard mixed things on the Atris, some people say they are the bees knees for a DD and others have said their top end is a little lacking, but hopefully that’s fixed with the new stiffer design. Looks like NS has been rocking some crazy lines at speed on the new ones where he used to use the Animas.
    I've been an Atris fanboi for years and my take is that it depends on how big you are, what you're used to skiing (or are you actually used to skiing a particular style of ski) and what snow type/conditions. It's a pretty capable ski if you're not used to skiing heavy chargers all day and especially if you're under 200lbs. The tips/tails have never been super stiff but the ski overall is capable of being pushed - just not to the same extent as the Corvus>Cochise>LP XXL, etc. The previous two versions of the Atris were stiffer than the original, but the newest 105 waist is supposedly a touch softer overall.


    Quote Originally Posted by mmmgood View Post
    I’m 6’1” 200 lbs and just about to turn 50! I’ve been riding the Captis 184 for groomers and Atris 189 for everything else. Love the Atris and it’s never really felt too long…maybe towards the end of a hard day in the steep skied out trees


    Every year we do a January Baldface trip and last year I had my Atris 189s with waist deep powder. I had a blast on them but they did tend to feel a little long in the deep, steeper tight trees. I found myself wishing I had something that was a little easier, maybe even slower at times. The 189 Atris was a lot of effort to ski in those conditions. They were a blast because you definitely sank deeper, and fun when it opened up….but a lot of work.


    This year Im looking to add a “just powder” ski for cat trips and Baldface. I haven’t ridden a +115 ski in the deep like the Nocta. This is where I’m struggling…I keep seeing the Nocta skis shorter with the full rocker. Will the Nocta 190 feel too long in those deep, tighter moments like the Atris 189 did for me? Should I go for the Nocta 186 for a more playful, floaty, maneuverable, easier going ride, or am I worrying about it too much and just go for the 190?
    I'd stick with the 190 for a pure pow trips, unless you see yourself spending a lot of time in tighter trees. The full reverse on the Nocta should give you better pivot than the Atris. I like my 189 Atris, but agree that for my size they can feel a bit long in slower, tighter spots. 184s are pretty mobile in similar situations.

  4. #204
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    Quote Originally Posted by whambat View Post
    Any loss of stability or damping from the Invictus to the Corvus? The Corvus is several hundred grams lighter. I’ll admit I was a little skeptical of the deep rocker lines on the Corvus as it reminds me of the Mantra M5s I have, and frankly don’t love that ski, I prefer the Bonafides with less rocker in that width. But, I guess that’s just a reason to go longer on size.
    I just skied them today in the perfect conditions. Crud, deeper pow, no loss of stability. I’m on the 193 and I really liked the 188 Invictus


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  5. #205
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn View Post
    I just skied them today in the perfect conditions. Crud, deeper pow, no loss of stability. I’m on the 193 and I really liked the 188 Invictus


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    thanks, that helps a lot. I like the idea of a lighter weight ski with the same charginess as I think it would be great with my Cast setup. Unfortunately, I just dinged myself up and have to see doc Tuesday to get an idea how much I’m going to miss.

  6. #206
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmmgood View Post
    I’m 6’1” 200 lbs and just about to turn 50! I’ve been riding the Captis 184 for groomers and Atris 189 for everything else. Love the Atris and it’s never really felt too long…maybe towards the end of a hard day in the steep skied out trees


    Every year we do a January Baldface trip and last year I had my Atris 189s with waist deep powder. I had a blast on them but they did tend to feel a little long in the deep, steeper tight trees. I found myself wishing I had something that was a little easier, maybe even slower at times. The 189 Atris was a lot of effort to ski in those conditions. They were a blast because you definitely sank deeper, and fun when it opened up….but a lot of work.


    This year Im looking to add a “just powder” ski for cat trips and Baldface. I haven’t ridden a +115 ski in the deep like the Nocta. This is where I’m struggling…I keep seeing the Nocta skis shorter with the full rocker. Will the Nocta 190 feel too long in those deep, tighter moments like the Atris 189 did for me? Should I go for the Nocta 186 for a more playful, floaty, maneuverable, easier going ride, or am I worrying about it too much and just go for the 190?
    I've got 25lbs on you so no comment, but how the f are you getting a yearly baldface trip?! HOOK US UP!

  7. #207
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuntmonkey View Post
    I've got 25lbs on you so no comment, but how the f are you getting a yearly baldface trip?! HOOK US UP!

    Ha! It is a special place. Once you’re in, don’t give it up! BTW, got the Nocta 190s

  8. #208
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    Tbh my skiing ability in pow is probably not suited for bald face. I’d love it, but def need some more turns before I threw down with that group.


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