If only there was something we could do...

[summit]

Couldn't she just shoot them off?

She? I'm pretty sure that was a 4chan hoax.

Shooting locks doesn't work like in the movies.

CBP's tactical team couldn't breach the classroom door and they have special shotgun breaching rounds and battering rams that they apparently left behind.

[PNWbrit]

She? I'm pretty sure that was a 4chan hoax.

Have you had your sense of humor surgically removed?

[DBdude]

The sheriffs departments are the ones who sued to have the unenforceable mag ban overturned in Co. They failed, now you've got this weird ass situation where stores openly sell technically illegal mags and everyone looks the other way because they never wanted to enforce it in the first place and it was just soem sort of experiment by the national Dem party.

Should have just kept them legal the current situation is not an improvement.

that is the craziest rationalization I have read yet

fucktards won't enforce the law - so bad law

no it's bad fucktards

[Buster Highmen]

She? I'm pretty sure that was a 4chan hoax.

Shooting locks doesn't work like in the movies.

CBP's tactical team couldn't breach the classroom door and they have special breaching rounds and battering rams.

Your sarcasm meter is still dysfunctional.

[The AD]

She? I'm pretty sure that was a 4chan hoax.

We know it was a hoax because women don't do this kind of thing.

[Adolf Allerbush]

For someone who doesn't absorb any news because it's too mentally difficult for him to do so...Leroy sure has a lot of opinions and alleged stats that he throws around to make his arguments.

[summit]

For someone who doesn't absorb any news because it's too mentally difficult for him to do so Leroy has a lot of opinions and alleged stats that he throws around to make his arguments.

30 pages into the thread and hasn't bothered to get the basic facts of how this went down... tracks with his namesake and par for the course.

[neckdeep]

That is a terrible look for the police.

So is the fact that a bunch of overweight officers in body armor with AR-15s standing around threatening the parents with tazers instead of what they should be doing: breaching the school, neutralizing the shooter to stop the slaughter, and getting medical care to the dying children.

Untrained unarmed parents willing to go up against a gunman while trained, armed, and armored cops, charged with defending the public, stop the parents instead of the gunman!

Fucking cowards!!!

See, this is why everyone needs to carry a gun. To protect us from state tyranny. If those parents had guns, they could have shot the deputies.

[BobMc]

The school district had a detailed plan to harden the schools. Didn't seem to work well...

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZF2...NQwNyVsV0/view

[dunfree]

It is not like the crazed gunman was going to pick the locks.

That was a classroom door that was locked (some have even been hardened!), which at most schools, is a different beast than the emergency exit doors that are often much easier to open. Hardening schools is a difficult thing for many that will require new building with different architectural aims, perhaps dramatically so. I’m pretty sure I know all of the schools at least one person in this thread would have gone too contemporaneously and none were armored even though they claim so.

shove your smug pompous rationality up your ass, I was pointing out the stupidity of Bobby stupid, the definition of tgr tryhard dumbfuck

[DBdude]

That is a terrible look for the police.

So is the fact that a bunch of overweight officers in body armor with AR-15s standing around threatening the parents with tazers instead of what they should be doing: breaching the school, neutralizing the shooter to stop the slaughter, and getting medical care to the dying children.

Untrained unarmed parents willing to go up against a gunman while trained, armed, and armored cops, charged with defending the public, stop the parents instead of the gunman!

Fucking cowards!!!

It does seem like a cluster fuck

but then again - it is tex-ass

[Adolf Allerbush]

30 pages into the thread and hasn't bothered to get the basic facts of how this went down... tracks with his namesake and par for the course.

I larfed...and went to watch the old Leroy Jenkins vid...an absolute classic.

[DBdude]

See, this is why everyone needs to carry a gun. To protect us from state tyranny. If those parents had guns, they could have shot the deputies.

bravo!

well done good sir

[Cono Este]

Turns out the cops didn't follow him in. The started tasing parents trying to enter.

https://youtu.be/dyXtymq-A6w

Makes you wonder.

Govt cancels mental healthcare and allows unrestricted gun sales.

Lunatic is shooting your kids school up and govt hesitate to go in themselves.

You try to act and get tazed by govt or worse if you took things into your own hands and tried going in armed yourself you’d be a govt casualty yourself.

Madness




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[mcphee]

We’ve spent 20+ years telling police they’re more important than us. That they’re inherently heroes. We’ve let them have their dumb fucking blue line flag that says they’re better than us. Them not willing to take any risk at all to protect anyone is the natural consequence of that. You get applicants who want to be called heroes instead of those who feel compelled to serve and protect their community.

[Mazderati]

All hat and no cattle.

[DBdude]

yep

[dunfree]

We’ve spent 20+ years telling police they’re more important than us. That they’re inherently heroes. We’ve let them have their dumb fucking blue line flag that says they’re better than us. Them not willing to take any risk at all to protect anyone is the natural consequence of that. You get applicants who want to be called heroes instead of those who feel compelled to serve and protect their community.

40 years - Warren vs District of Columbia. They don’t have any duty to you.

[PNWbrit]

Joe Garcia, the husband of Irma Garcia, one of the two teachers killed in Uvalde, died this morning of a heart attack, said his nephew, John Martinez. Mr. Garcia, 50, had visited his wife’s memorial on Thursday morning to drop off flowers. When he got back home, he “pretty much just fell over,” Mr. Martinez said. They were married for 24 years and had four children, the oldest 23 and the rest teenagers. He had been riven with grief when he lost the love of his life, Mr. Martinez said. “I’m really in shock right now.”

Fuck...

[J. Barron DeJong]

That was a classroom door that was locked (some have even been hardened!), which at most schools, is a different beast than the emergency exit doors that are often much easier to open. Hardening schools is a difficult thing for many that will require new building with different architectural aims, perhaps dramatically so. I’m pretty sure I know all of the schools at least one person in this thread would have gone too contemporaneously and none were armored even though they claim so.

shove your smug pompous rationality up your ass, I was pointing out the stupidity of Bobby stupid, the definition of tgr tryhard dumbfuck

But maybe not locked, actually:



https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/stat...GDvMAFVdkBccRw


Hard to know for sure. It’s difficult to determine if a classroom door is locked while standing out front of the school.

This is the same guy who said it was locked yesterday. Just lying to cover their asses every step of the way.

[MultiVerse]

Reportedly "officers tried to enter the school, but the shooter fired on them, hitting some of the officers, Olivarez said. At that point, police officers “began breaking windows around the school” in an attempt to evacuate children, teachers and staff,."

The BORTRAC agents exchanged rounds with the shooter before entering the classroom. They also took multiple hits to a shield as well as receiving ricochet wounds upon entering the classroom. More details will emerge but so far it sounds like the shooter used the classroom door as cover to hold off law enforcement.

[Dantheman]

Maybe we try to do what Australia did in response to mass shootings: https://fortune.com/2018/02/20/austr...ntrol-success/

Why is it possible for other countries to fix their gun violence issues, mostly, but we act like it's impossible in the US? That's not necessarily for you specifically...but just a question to the TGR masses.

We have 10x more people, 50x more guns and no buy-in from the gun-owning public. There are clear logistical challenges to implementing a similar program in the US. Never going to happen unless Trump himself suggests it.

[DBdude]

40 years - Warren vs District of Columbia. They don’t have any duty to you.

protect and serve

last time I mentioned that to a police officer I thought I was going to get tazed

here's looking at you Vergennes, Vt police department

[skiJ]

The school district had a detailed plan to harden the schools. Didn't seem to work well...

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZF2...NQwNyVsV0/view

That's Not a plan - it's an administrator's outline.


dog. tj

[Adolf Allerbush]

We have 10x more people, 50x more guns and no buy-in from the gun-owning public. There are clear logistical challenges to implementing a similar program in the US. Never going to happen unless Trump himself suggests it.

I know you're not arguing this, but your response is akin to saying we basically don't want to do it, but recognize it would work. There needs to be public/political will...yes, Trump suggesting it would probably make it happen. 10x people shouldn't matter...we have 10x the resources too. 50x more guns is an problem...but isn't that the point? we're trying to solve said problem.