View Poll Results: What should we do?

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  • Nothing, Cat is out of the bag and this is the cost of our "freedom"

    6 5.41%
  • Prison Time for gun owners who lose or have their gun stolen

    22 19.82%
  • Background checks and a waiting period for 100% of transactions

    90 81.08%
  • No semiautomatic anythings...

    41 36.94%
  • Tax gun sales with additional fee to go to mental health

    49 44.14%
  • Register ALL firearms and require insurance (car analogy)

    72 64.86%
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    Quote Originally Posted by AK47bp View Post
    I have a 7 year old. So innocent and happy.

    Such a loss and I’m nauseous knowing nothing will ever change.




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    It's just gut wrenching. My twins are now young teens. I distinctly remember discussions with my kids when they were 7, 8 and 9 regarding school shootings prompted by my daughter's questions. Yesterday my 13 yr old son said "Why would anyone go after little kids, they are 6, 8 or 10. What did they ever do to anybody?"

    As a parent it seems surreal to even have to consider these possibilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cisco Kid View Post
    Stay stupid, looks god on you.
    Keep posting on TGR. Should see gun control any day now.
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    I'll leave one thought then I'm going outside.

    Civil liberties are under assault. If you don't like roe vs wade being overturned, you shouldn't support an assault on other civil liberties. We need to stop arguing about which parts of the bill of rights to prioritize and form unity about prioritizing all of them over division.


    Carry on with your echo chamber though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BC13 View Post
    It's just gut wrenching. My twins are now young teens. I distinctly remember discussions with my kids when they were 7, 8 and 9 regarding school shootings prompted by my daughter's questions. Yesterday my 13 yr old son said "Why would anyone go after little kids, they are 6, 8 or 10. What did they ever do to anybody?"

    As a parent it seems surreal to even have to consider these possibilities.

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    Is it unique in history?

    Why would someone kill 11 million men women and children? I'm sorry you had to have that conversation but someone had to have that conversation with Anne Frank too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leroy jenkins View Post
    You guys just want an emotionally gratifying echo chamber to cope with your emotions. Carry on.
    What the fuck do you expect? Less than 24 hours out of the senseless horrific and tragic murders of 19 young children and a teacher at school, everyone is just going to turn off their emotions and focus on a cold, rationale, reasonable, and achievable gun policy in a left leaning internet forum?

    Most everyone knows you you struggle with understanding how most humans react and interact. This is a reminder to you of your blindness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skiJ View Post
    Please, breathe Deep, AD -

    making schools Safer by restricting access is a leap from putting them on "lockdown" .

    I have entered the courthouse(s) scores of times in the last five years - always Only through a single public entry point.
    Airport security is a similar example --

    there are a couple of naysayers who dismiss school security / restricted access -
    it ain't going to happen overnight, And it is going to be harder now as schools have become the arena for fighting about covid...

    restricting access to promote Safety is not "lockdown" ;
    This is the original post I was responding to:
    Quote Originally Posted by AK47bp
    Turn our schools into high security facilities and take away the soft targets. Same as getting into a federal building or prison, pentagon, etc.
    And I don't agree with it. Sure, lock the doors and restrict access, but I'm not onboard with making security at schools on par with The Pentagon or prisons. And my overall point is this is simply a band aid that does not address the root problem. We need a solution on par with what Australia has done to really address the problem. I'm nearly certain that will never happen and that's sad to me.

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    Obviously I’m not going to quote the verbal diarrhea guy, but the NRA talking point of a nation of gravy seals fighting tyranny is addressed here: https://www.theatlantic.com/national...t-ever/272734/

    ^ also points out that the most effective Soviet genocidal technique was starvation.
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    Everyone do themselves a favor and put Leroy on mute. His straw man troll garbage nonsense is a waste of bandwidth and light.

    My thoughts are directed to everyone with children who are powerless to prevent their deaths in this backwards nation.

    Those in power to do something but do nothing are soulless and empty fkn suits. My prayer is that McConnell and his merry band of obstructionists receive their due in this life or whatever lies beyond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leroy jenkins View Post
    Millions dead in ethnic cleansings of unarmed populations speak for themselves. You'd be aware of this if you could admit there is any valididty to opposing viewpoints.

    People who cannot see any validity in opposing viewpoints are their own problem. No no no, no one can disagree with me without me saying they're crazy or stupid or brainwashed etc.
    Get the fuck out of here with the "whataboutism". The presence of other terrible acts does not mean we can't fix or seek to address other, less terrible acts. Your stance is "terrible things have happened in history, therefore nothing matters."

    You have yet to offer anything of value to the conversation from a counterposition standpoint - whether it's data, meaningful points or otherwise. I'm happy to engage in debate when it's done in good faith. You're just throwing shit at the wall to try to distract from talking about firearms. At no point did I declare your points wholly invalid, I stated my position that there was no reason for firearms beyond bolt action from a "tool usage" standpoint. If you have meaningful counterpoints, fucking make them already.

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    We all want to go about our business/lives without worry of lethal force randomly erasing loved ones, or having to go thru metal detectors to go to school, the airport, sporting events, etc.

    I am baffled that there is any more to any argument than that.

    What freedom is there putting our kids in cages? So that a minority can polish their toys?

    The freedoms we are losing are BECAUSE of the profligate gun access & the entirely predictable outcomes we are experiencing.

    The 2nd amendment as currently abused is shameful.

    The gun community is all responsible for this shit — it is deplorable. The few that speak up are unfortunately drowned out by the selfish majority for whom guns are a fucking hobby lifestyle.

    Someone upthread wanted to get a gun to shoot targets — maybe you can do without for the sake of not contributing to the culture of lethal negligence? Surely there is some other pastime that could substitute? How tone deaf are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The AD View Post
    This is the original post I was responding to:


    And I don't agree with it. Sure, lock the doors and restrict access, but I'm not onboard with making security at schools on par with The Pentagon or prisons. And my overall point is this is simply a band aid that does not address the root problem. We need a solution on par with what Australia has done to really address the problem. I'm nearly certain that will never happen and that's sad to me.
    Schools, grocery stores, movie theaters, restaurants. Instead of masks we need to put a police force in everywhere, so we don't lose our basic rights. Doesn't sound fascist at all.
    Move upside and let the man go through...

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    My 19 year old still can't drink a beer legally with me unless we go out of the country. Jack booted thugs will come for him if he does.

    My 12 year old daughter might soon not have access to healthcare that will help her plan pregnancies and her life. Jack booted thugs might come for her if she does.

    Freedumb.

    Daughter sent off today to a good public school that the governor is working hard everyday to squeeze and defund while she sends thoughts and prayers to Texas.

    But my 19 yo, working hard to make some sense out of life after a confusing covid space launch from high school, so he can get the fuck out of shithole Iowa, could still put it all on hold for freedumb and go buy an assault rifle or three tomorrow and nobody bats an eye.

    Priorities I guess.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ::: ::: View Post
    culture of lethal negligence
    This phrase carries weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schuss View Post
    Gonna need a cite on those stats.
    There are 350 million guns in the US currently. 6-10 million are "assault rifles". About 3% of all guns. So you would see a 3% drop in the amount of guns in the US. All while creating an extremely lucrative black market.

    Rifles are used in about 1% of all gun violence incidents. So you might see a 1% drop in overall gun violence.
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    I haven't read this thread... is it "if only there was something we could do about Leroy?"

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    gun deaths are the leading cause of death of children in the United States.

    Think about it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBdude View Post
    gun deaths are the leading cause of death of children in the United States.

    Think about it...
    Motor vehicle crashes. Mainly caused by cell phones.
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    + all personal semi auto firearms

    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNKen View Post
    We can't fix morality, depraved minds, and attention seekers by passing laws.
    Maybe not, but we can look at making firearms much less available to them, especially semi-auto ones.

    I am so fucking tired of the “we can’t do this, we can’t do that” from people that don’t offer any solutions. They can go fuck themselves.

    Edit: Like what schuss said.
    Quote Originally Posted by schuss View Post
    You can fix the level of force multiplication they have access to.
    Or:
    Quote Originally Posted by jackstraw View Post
    Yeah, because mass gun shootings happen all the time in schools all over the world. Can't be fixed. No solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBdude View Post
    Bobby’s gonna open a gun shop now. He loves to sell adolescent mortality.

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    Has the 1994 assault weapon ban expiration in 2004 been mentioned yet? We have the same argument over and over which is just so sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackattack View Post
    Bobby’s gonna open a gun shop now. He loves to sell adolescent mortality.
    lol

    we all have our opinions

    bobby is a good guy

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackattack View Post
    Bobby’s gonna open a gun shop now. He loves to sell adolescent mortality.
    You have to be 18 to buy a gun legally... So... That would be an adult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peruvian View Post
    Has the 1994 assault weapon ban expiration in 2004 been mentioned yet? We have the same argument over and over which is just so sad.

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    yes indeed

    remington is getting put out of business because it was proved they marketed assault weapons to teens

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