View Poll Results: What should we do?
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Nothing, Cat is out of the bag and this is the cost of our "freedom"
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Prison Time for gun owners who lose or have their gun stolen
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Background checks and a waiting period for 100% of transactions
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No semiautomatic anythings...
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Tax gun sales with additional fee to go to mental health
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Register ALL firearms and require insurance (car analogy)
101 64.74%
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05-25-2022, 04:39 PM #376
you aren’t wrong, but they don’t translate that position into support either way. “Reasonable” regulation isn’t a viable political concept, and that’s in part because of the inputs to it. “crime” and “warning” signs aren’t treated as things, but baubles.
i don’t think he’s necessarily wrong, cabelas used rack is full of grandpa guns that nobody wants and traded it in on something Matt black and new. Maybe after hearing of a coworkers uncle that blew through 5-figures of inheritance on guns and prepper paranoia I just think it’s something not good they should acknowledge
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05-25-2022, 04:44 PM #377Registered User
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If only there was something we could do...
I remember well being in a mall type sporting goods store in Reno right after sandy hook. The massive gun dept was like filenes basement during the big sale and practically sold out. That said everything to me about guns in America. It’s the land of chicken hawk cowards
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05-25-2022, 04:47 PM #378
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05-25-2022, 04:49 PM #380
Two tropes often repeated about gun control are 'Chicago' and 'Why don't we enforce the laws on the books?' The problem with both arguments is the laws are purposely toothless making it possible for gun sellers to get off easy even after repeatedly selling guns to criminals:
Over the past two decades, the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has let some of the Chicago area’s most notorious gun sellers off the hook for serious violations of federal law that included selling to straw purchasers, transferring guns without background checks and doctoring sales records.
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ATF can revoke a gun dealer’s license only if the seller willfully violates the law. That’s different from most areas of civil and criminal law, in which defendants can’t use ignorance as an excuse for wrongdoing. To revoke a license, ATF inspectors have to prove a gun dealer intentionally disregarded the rules.
Proving that a dealer disregarded these laws intentionally can be difficult.
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05-25-2022, 04:49 PM #381
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05-25-2022, 05:00 PM #382
more and more, I am Here with the first part of this - And I wonder and I worry. with the 'conservatives' now holding a 'super-majority' on the SC, does it really matter ( for the next six to twelve years... )
The Constitution was intended to be a living document., And the Democracy was intended to be a representative, citizen government - That's Why Washington declined to be appointed king
( why is the president the only one with a term limit ) ...
... 'of the people, by the people, and for the people... ' has rung-hollow to me for a long time. ...
anyway -
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amen. tj
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05-25-2022, 05:16 PM #383
Waiting 30-45 min for swat before entering the classroom. M
I’d imagine they could hear what was happening inside. And I understand it would probably mean suicide for the first guy or two in the room, but Jesus.
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05-25-2022, 05:21 PM #384Registered User
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05-25-2022, 05:26 PM #385
This is the hat, indicating his graze wound, veteran BORTAC Border Patrol agent was wearing when he breached the classroom with a tactical team:
Attachment 417382
Worth mentioning if it hasn't been already, even three good guys with three guns weren't able to stop the shooter initially "Two Uvalde police officers and a school resource officer fired at the shooter, but it did not stop him from entering the building."Last edited by MultiVerse; 05-25-2022 at 06:09 PM.
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05-25-2022, 05:36 PM #386
Gun control at local levels will never be effective gun control.. Customs and border control are required for effective gun control or really any contraband matters. It's only going to be effective at national border levels. Saying bla bla bla but Chicago/DC sure seems to get a lot of traction and I have no idea why nobody ever points out that there are no practical efforts to control the flow of guns across the city limit border at all... That's NOT "gun control".. it's lip service with no teeth..
Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!
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05-25-2022, 05:40 PM #387
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05-25-2022, 05:47 PM #389
yeah (yes) - but 'stacking the court' shouldn't be the 'balance' -
the senate should not have been able to prevent Garland's appointment in 2016.
( f. politics. ) skiJ
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05-25-2022, 05:49 PM #390Registered User
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05-25-2022, 05:56 PM #391Registered User
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don't pay any attention to these shootings cause it's not healthy we are a sick society in need of much help
but was reading the wall street journal and this was at the top of the headlines just now
I was never sure of what I thought of beto orourke kind though he was a solid and kinda of total clown
I have high praise for him today
the steve kerr shit was top too, we need lots more of this shit from lots more people
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05-25-2022, 06:00 PM #392
To open carry at a news conference about this shooting is the height of twistedness.
And that scumbag Cruz posturing in the spotlight.Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
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05-25-2022, 06:00 PM #393
How long do the overlords allow us rabble to poly ass rant outside of polyass before shutting it down and moving it? Statute of limitations seems to be expanding since Ukraine..
Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!
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05-25-2022, 06:04 PM #394
Excellent idea. Seems totally logical according to the pro life pro gun party.
There’s one party preventing sensible gun control! And those who vote for the GOP vote for this shit to continue.
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05-25-2022, 06:24 PM #395
I agree it is a constitutional right for Americans to be assholes...its just too bad that so many take the opportunity...iscariot
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05-25-2022, 06:24 PM #396
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05-25-2022, 06:34 PM #398
Man, does that Texas governor sure come across as a greasy, do-nothing sumbitch.
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05-25-2022, 06:40 PM #399
School is mandated by the government for children to attend.
Grocery stores, churches, synagogues, etc are optional.
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05-25-2022, 06:46 PM #400
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