View Poll Results: What should we do?
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Nothing, Cat is out of the bag and this is the cost of our "freedom"
16 10.26% -
Prison Time for gun owners who lose or have their gun stolen
30 19.23% -
Background checks and a waiting period for 100% of transactions
119 76.28% -
No semiautomatic anythings...
60 38.46% -
Tax gun sales with additional fee to go to mental health
70 44.87% -
Register ALL firearms and require insurance (car analogy)
101 64.74%
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03-28-2023, 01:30 PM #4451
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03-28-2023, 01:31 PM #4452
and they think because they purchased their guns legally, use them responsibly according to the law (technically not really in BS’s case), and probably (maybe) aren’t going to go on a rampage, there isn’t blood on their hands.
Monetary support of the gun industry pays for this unfettered access to too many firearms.
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03-28-2023, 01:33 PM #4453
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03-28-2023, 01:36 PM #4454
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03-28-2023, 01:39 PM #4455
^why would you ever have respect for that scumbag?
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03-28-2023, 01:43 PM #4456
There are plenty of rich kids on this board, and plenty of self interested ones. Bobby was at least up front about it even if his choices wouldn't be mine.
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03-28-2023, 01:45 PM #4457
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03-28-2023, 01:46 PM #4458
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03-28-2023, 01:47 PM #4459
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03-28-2023, 01:57 PM #4460
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03-28-2023, 02:02 PM #4461
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03-28-2023, 02:11 PM #4462
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03-28-2023, 02:16 PM #4463
That post isn’t about more drug laws. It’s about being a responsible gun owner who agrees to follow the law regarding owning class 3 firearms. Can’t have your cake and eat it too, fuckstick.
Should I alert your local ATF field office?
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03-28-2023, 02:22 PM #4464
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03-28-2023, 02:23 PM #4465
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03-28-2023, 02:26 PM #4466
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03-28-2023, 02:30 PM #4467
Yeah, take the guns away. Too fucking bad for the gun nuts. Kids lives are way more important than your little dick hobby.
And how about all the kids who survived and lived thru this tragedy? Ahh, they'll all be just fine I'm sure. No nightmares keeping them up at night.
Fuck you and your gunz!
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03-28-2023, 02:32 PM #4468
Bobby, you willing to sacrifice your o wn kids for 2A? Yes or No?
Seeker of Truth. Dispenser of Wisdom. Protector of the Weak. Avenger of Evil.
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03-28-2023, 02:36 PM #4469"I don't pretend to have all the answers, and I think there's something to be said for that" -One For The Road
Brain dead and made of money.
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03-28-2023, 02:37 PM #4470
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03-28-2023, 02:37 PM #4471
I believe it might have something to do with the story, just as every time there's another shooting, the very first thing the media does it try to relate it to some sort of identity. Sometimes they say it's rooted in white supremacy, sometimes it's incel 4chan white male loser, etc. Now that the shooter was trans, we can't talk about that?
Funny how so often when the shooter profile doesn't fit the narrative, the news media shifts so quickly away from the identity. Esp when the shooter happens to not be your standard white male. Although that IS the typical profile, I'll admit. Seems the most common element among school shooters is that they often come from broken homes. Is that the case with this one too? Haven't heard too many details just yet. Still catching up.
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03-28-2023, 02:37 PM #4472
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03-28-2023, 02:38 PM #4473
how is it the same 2A proponents are watching citizens in Ukraine take up arms against a tyrannical government and are…wait for it…cheering on the tyrannical government?
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03-28-2023, 02:40 PM #4474
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03-28-2023, 02:41 PM #4475
One of the rock-solid truths about the US epidemic of mass shootings is that these catastrophic events, which tear families and communities apart, are committed overwhelmingly by cis males. According to the Violence Project (TVP), men are responsible for carrying out more than 97% of all public mass shootings.
TVP, a non-partisan research group, tracks mass public shootings in the US stretching back to 1966. Its database defines such shootings relatively stringently as incidents in which four or more people are killed with a firearm in a public place.
Following this definition, there have been 190 such disasters in the past 57 years, and of those 185 were carried out by shooters who were assigned male at birth. Only five, including Hale, were assigned female at birth. Two committed the killing sprees alongside their male partners.
“Men perpetrate over 90% of homicides worldwide,” said TVP’s Jillian Peterson. “Explanations for this focus on a host of biological, social, economic and cultural factors, including societal expectations and gender roles. When it comes to mass shootings, perpetrators often see themselves in previous perpetrators and identify with them, which can contribute to copycat shootings.”
The FBI has a slightly looser definition of what it calls “active shooter incidents” that focuses on individuals who engage in killing or attempting to kill people in a confined and populated area. Its database records a larger number of cases – 277 between 2000 and 2018 alone – but even here the proportion of perpetrators assigned female at birth is very low – 12, or just 4% of the total.
The number of shooters who are trans or gender nonconforming is even rarer, placing Hale in an almost unique class. The only other member of this category known in recent years is the 22-year-old shooter who killed five people in a gay nightclub in Colorado Springs last November who, according to defense lawyers, is non-binary.
Dr Jason Silva, an assistant professor at William Paterson University who has co-authored one of the only studies of the small number of mass shooters who were assigned female at birth, noted that there is still scant understanding of why the overwhelming majority of mass shooters are cis male.
“We can think about the nature versus nurture argument – are men predominantly biologically driven toward aggression because of testosterone, or are they more been nurtured into being more violent through our culture and society? We don’t have a definitive answer, but both seem plausible.”
The exceedingly rare nature of a shooter who is anything other than cis male is unlikely to stop far-right agitators from seizing on Hale’s trans identity to forward culture war objectives. Within hours of the shooting, Charlie Kirk, an extremist provocateur affiliated with Donald Trump, was calling for a ban on “gender affirming care for kids”.
Such toxic responses to the shooting are likely to find fertile ground among some sectors of Tennessee society. The state’s Republican leadership has been at the forefront of the movement to pass anti-trans legislation that has swept the US.
Earlier this month, Tennessee became the first state to ban drag shows. Its legislature is setting the pace for at least 16 other Republican-controlled states that are debating similarly draconian measures.
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